"A high mobility bruiser that 1shots tanks and squishies alike"

leaving it at 'one dash' is a surefire way to make it seem like she has low mobility. I won't argue whether hers is greater than Gnar's, I don't see or play Gnar often enough to say so, but Fiora's dash is on a 3-ish second cooldown if you hit an enemy with it, potentially lower, and while Gnar's dash can go very far, it requires proper positioning (which isn't important in many scenarios, but still worth mention), all Fiora's mobility requires is that your Q puts you nearby to a unit that can be damaged, and it makes the whole vital minigame really easy to use because she can just dash straight through you if the vital is on your other side, and it makes it very hard to run from her if she's able to catch you, which she can generally do pretty easily.

Hop: 18 / 16.5 / 15 / 13.5 / 12

Lunge: 16 / 14 / 12 / 10 / 8, 60% reduced CD if it hits an enemy

Sure he can move farther with a single ability, but Fiora can use it 1.5x more even if she hits nothing, 3~x more if she hits someone.

Also his E shares CD's between forms, so he can't chain Hop with Crunch.

he doesn't do fiora damage.

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Hey you responded to one of my comments yesterday. I'm the guy who said Fiora had a 0% banrate (whoops, something seems fishy, you were right the site was bugged!) You made some really good points and I would love to continue our discussion, but it seems like that post in its entirety was deleted as I get a 404 error every time I try to navigate to it. I feel bad that you spent so much effort putting together that comment, only for that whole thread to disappear. If you would also like to talk more just send me a friend request in game, otherwise I guess you got the last word!

Either way you seem like a very nice respectful person and I wish you all the best, even if we do disagree on Fiora's balance (or lack thereof in your opinion).

Well thank you. And I'd be glad to have a conversation, however I'm in EUW so I won't be able to add you.

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You can laugh, but it probably wouldn't be funny when it happened.

The most competitive build is starting titanic so you don't get 1shot, then building cleaver, switching your titanic to a ravenous, then following up with the third damage item and two defensive items, depending on the situation.

You know, kinda how you usually build fighters.

Double lifesteal is probably the most common competitive build (meaning pros), and trinity force is picked up with some frequency as well, against teams where black cleaver isn't needed.

If you think that build is weak in 1v1, what's next? Sated tank Yi does low amounts of damage? This build does damage. She has just better scalings than others with the same build.

Btw, Black cleaver is better as it gives cdr (super strong on Fiora), health, cdr and mobility. Trinity force gives more diverse stats that Fiora doesn't need.

Lifesteal does mean a little better in 1v1 but mostly if you're snowballing, as lifesteal is typically one of the best snowball stats in the game.

She's also known for outscaling Malphite's armor in competitive, most duels come lategame become ridiculously biased towards Fiora. Shen is not that great of duellist, and Mundo, well.. he's pretty strong in duels but I really don't think he stands a chance. Longer the fight goes, the Black Cleaver shred becomes very effective, and with that build Fiora is very hard to kill, so...

If you don't believe in me, then try it in a custom game with friends. Full build Fiora vs the usual other champions full builds. You'll see she's really strong in 1v1.

"there is a rule called right of way that awards the fencer for making the first offensive action. " Excuse me what? You are talking about sport fencing. Fiora is not playing a sport she is a fencer that fences with a real weapon that actually would pierce through skin.

Also "Vitals, however, cannot fit this role, because real fencers aren't supposed to have any "vitals"." Fiora isn't fencing against other fencers. Their opening aren't necessarily baits because they are not fencers, Fiora is. So fiora could find a vital point in her enemy.

Classical Fencing is represented through HEMA organizations.

Sport fencing is nothing like classical fencing. There is little expectation that a person should protect themselves after scoring, which is expected in HEMA circles. Flicking, for example, is something that is specifically not allowed or scored in HEMA events, and a fencer is expected to ensure that they are in a secure position after scoring.

Epee, Foil, and Saber each represent a simplified point and tradition in the history of fencing.

None of them are bad, and each are distinct and interesting. That is until you try Epee and get poked in the toe every ****ing time :p