Who Uses Death's Dance And Makes It a REAL Issue Besides Draven?

Meep Man··1 votes·1,323 views

Maybe Graves and Fiora ... just saying. Is an item really busted when it's only a big issue on a small pool of champions? This isn't in defense of the item itself or the champions that do make the item appear insane, but it's food for thought. How many champions have to use the item for it to become an issue with the item and not the champions that use it?

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oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

Aatrox Corki DrMundo Gnar Kayle Nidalee Nunu Rammus Shyvana Teemo Udyr Urgot Zilean

Ralanr1 votes

Mundo uses DD?

Meep Man2 votes

Surprised you didn't comment on about 80% of the other ones lol

Ralanr1 votes

Mundo bothered me the most honestly.

Meep Man2 votes

Zilean bothers me the most

Nanuk Pihoqahiak1 votes

Zilean, but not Nunu? Nunu has to physically walk to them first lol.

Meep Man1 votes

Nunu at least has an attack speed steroid and will make more use of taking delayed damage though. This is kind of a dumb argument.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

well as every one is crying that DD reduces damage why not... i mean its not like he is a TANK so why wouldnt he build a damage item

and go DD + ninja tabs and be unkillable like draven

zxinferxz1 votes

As the resident Mundo turboautist: I've tried Death's Dance Mundo, and believe me I sure as damn hell have tried it. It's trash. Mundo has way enough AD as it is, so he has to build attack speed for his right clicks to be a viable source of damage output, hence the 80 AD are wasted on him, as well as the lifesteal, even more so the lifesteal, because if the enemy team has no sources of GW against a Mundo, then you will win the game no matter what you build on him, because the enemy team is trash; hence the enemy team will always have a source of GW against you, thus making the lifesteal even more useless than it already is on a Mundo that has no attack speed items, and a Mundo building attack speed means he's not building tanky, so he's going to get bursted through the passive bleed, as if he didn't even have it in the first place

I'll ignore the rest of your memepost

Aatrox Ashe Caitlyn Draven Fiora Gangplank Gnar Graves Irelia JarvanIV Jax Jayce Jhin Kled Lucian MasterYi MissFortune RekSai Riven Shyvana Trundle Udyr Vi Warwick XinZhao

Is a better list, in my opinion

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

OH DEAR GOD NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR AT ALL [zombie-brand-facepalm]

ReZisT Lust1 votes

wrigity wrigity wrecked

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

like how does any one see that list and take it seriously

i mean maybe aatrox and shyanna lol

HeresyHorus1 votes

u can go item 3812 item 3046 item 3143 item 3065 item 3047 + situational.

pretty legit believe me.

zxinferxz1 votes

While I admit I've enjoyed the blessings of PD Mundo, if you go the PD DD Mundo build, then you're a easily kitable (I run ghost and I still find myself to be easily kitable), hulking behemoth of pain-bringing, and you bring nothing else but that to your teamfights. When compared to the enemy team having somebody bringing the metabuild with solari stoneplate KV, making his adc immortal. Although I can see it working when for some god-forsaken reason you have way too many tanks in your team. I've also come to notice that the jungler item is useless so I've started to sell it, but I didn't know that back then when I ran the PD DD tests, so I guess it might be more viable now that I'm not wasting an itemslot on a cinderhulk

HeresyHorus1 votes

at least the ADC wont ignore u when u make it to him and focus ur carries than use u as a heal source cuz u have damage + tankyness, and his team will be forced to spend all their def actives just for u while ur team do the rest.

its too easy nowadays to ignore tanks as an ADC even when they are up ur face thanks to life steal + item 3812 item 3046 + all those item 3109 item 3190 , just kill the enemy most fed carry than lifesteal back form the 0 dmg tank.

Big Lincoln2 votes

Fiora Riven

you would think Illaoi but her winrate's been on a downward slope since the tank update

ProfDrDeath1 votes

In Illaoi's case, isn't the reason for her sinking winrate the fact that the more common top laners work quite well against her? In addition to the higher focus on resistances being somewhat detrimental, as she cannot build penetration beyond Cleaver and is almost purely physical damage?

Death's Dance itself seems to be quite popular and good for her - http://current.lolalytics.com/champion/Illaoi/

Malicious Metal1 votes

Riven <-

Meep Man2 votes

I'm not going to argue about whether Riven is busted or not right now because I think Riven and Yasuo both right now are under an intense spotlight of hate for several reasons, mainly due to the event. When you face a Riven and Yasuo every game, it will make you hate them. Perhaps Riven is an issue with it, but I think both have a lot stacked against them right now when it comes to how much the community likes them.

Plus, I think Riven is just annoying by design for those she plays against. The whole art of animation canceling and very "spammable" mobility along with that huge shield she has just makes her a huge annoyance overall. When I face a Riven, every item she builds seems broken to me.

Malicious Metal2 votes

I'm not hating on Riven, Mordekaiser totally destroys her.

She is one of the champions who snowball even harder because of DD though.

Meep Man1 votes

That's just her nature though. Riven is a "snowbally" champion and DD makes it worse because it's an AD defensive item that's viable.

Escheton1 votes

Not so much her nature as it is the item being buffed specifically to make Riven shine more so people wanna buy the skin.

Meep Man2 votes

Oh, I see. I have been blind all this time. How could I not have seen the truth. Riot's brilliant marketing trick by buffing an item a month and a half in advance so that they can sell the Legendary Riven skin.

CrabPeopleReform1 votes

Fiora Yasuo

Ahristocats1 votes

no one has it on a core 100% build except draven fiora and riven

even graves doesn't build it a lot

KirotheImmortal1 votes

Tbh i find hextech gunblade is more of an issue. Only a couple champs make true use of it. But like... its broken as shit on them. I dont realy notice much difference in someone getting Death dance tbh. Yeh it makes them "tankier" but its squishy champs that get it. 1000hp/30 os 300. Meaning you only need 300 more damage to kill them. Thats not even taking into account that they will be taking that 300+ damage over time even if they life steal. Bork is more an issue then DD. Attack speed raw life steal %hp damage and kite based active

Entheos Geon1 votes

The last buffs Death's Dance got were completely unnecessary, the item was already in a good spot.

Fowus1 votes

does cait even build deaths dance? lmao

Meep Man1 votes

I just realized I accidentally put Caitlyn there instead of Fiora haha!

Sambers1 votes

I use it on Jhin mostly due the high attack it provides..

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