There's no real counter play to it either because it's almost impossible to hit her with any cc while she's ulting. And then she two shots your damage dealers and it's impossible to play against unless you have a maokai or malzahar on your team. This is coming from someone that is level 7 with vayne and this has always been a problem even before that q buff that she didn't need.
BIackfox3 votesYou lose every game unless you have a malzahar or maokai on your team? Wow, didn't know it was that hard to cc her
Unlucky471 voteswell both of those champions have point and click cc and if we didn't have both of them that game would have been lost real bad. For teams without point and click cc so like maybe a morg support and sion top vayne would just stomp them.
ZephyrDrake3 votesso Vayne is still ridiculous because she beats you every single time? i can say the exact same thing about Blitz since i usually lose against him since every single Blitz i play against seem to be gods and land every single critical hook possible but i won't say that "he has no real counterplay because most of my loses are against him"
Unlucky471 votesNo it's not that she doesn't have counter play because I lose to her it's she doesn't have counter play because she kills me in two shots from invisibility without any way to stop it.
ZephyrDrake1 votesNo it's not that she doesn't have counter play because I lose to her it's she doesn't have counter play because she kills me in two shots from invisibility without any way to stop it.
aka "she beat me she has no counterplay!" there are plenty of ways to deal with her. She has counterplay. You wanting to deny them just because she is doing what she is supposed to be doing is inconsequential. If you are someone that cannot 1v1 her you do not try to 1v1 her. If you can only kill her by jumping on her you do not try a head on assault at her. The closer you are to your team the more wary she has to be since she is fairly close range. Not melee but still pretty close ranged so that opens up for her to be focused down specially if she made made a mistake. Counterplay play is not "i can 1v1 X champion" or "i can literally prevent everything this champion can do". Every single champion in the game is different and need to be approached in a different way. Very few champions have the exact same weakness
Unlucky471 votesI don't try to 1v1 her she just ults out of bushes and takes out three people because she only has to right click a couple of times to kill half a team. Its not that she has different weaknesses its that she barely has any. Her mobility and damage well make up for her range along with her invisibility and as stated the only reliable way to actually deal with her is for point and click cc or to out burst her which is nearly impossible.
ZephyrDrake1 votesI don't try to 1v1 her she just ults out of bushes and takes out three people because she only has to right click a couple of times to kill half a team. Its not that she has different weaknesses its that she barely has any. Her mobility and damage well make up for her range along with her invisibility and as stated the only reliable way to actually deal with her is for point and click cc or to out burst her which is nearly impossible.
oh so you are complaining because of a fed Vayne or a team of uncoordinated squishies that would die instantly by a tank WITH NO ITEMS assaulting them due to their godawful map awareness. LEARN TO DEAL WITH HER! having terrible teammates is not an excuse of why someone is broken or not. If it was so impossible for anyone to deal with her she would be in every single game and she would have a stupidly high winrate. Guess what? neither of those two things are happening
d4rkshock1 votesPlay an assasins or burst mages. That is if you get mid or jg. If not try playing an initiator bike Zac, amumu, and malphite then your team should converge onto her. Rengar easily jumps her and oneshots her. So she condemned you away, use a bush and even then sometimes, they can't even react. My last game as rengar, their ezreal would die in half a second and I don't play alot of rengar. Ezreal also has a blink I might add. Talon, easily oneshot people early over and over. Q ult e dead. Fighters and tanks may have issues because of kitting. That's why melee champions don't work well in lol but because dota has turn time, meele heroes are being played as safelane and that's the equivalent of adc. For instance, phantom assassin is the vayne equivalent in terms of damage because of her ult which is a crit passve without an active (up to 500% damage on pseudo random) and she's melee. Some divers like vi could probably kill her in fights. Vi has 2 dashes and usually builds bruiser and has a simular 3 hit w passive ability. The only difference is its physical. Let's put it this way. Vayne is a way guy with a gun and vi is a monster in size with a light Kevlar vest and a weak weapon. Tanks have heavy level vests and no weapons.
Steel Blossom1 votesHer only real counterplay are chained point-and-click CCs. With her Q on like a 2 sec CD at max rank, your chances of hitting any skillshot CCs onto her is already pretty slim. Add to that, aggression in the form of pure damage is likely to be futile due to her stealth and knockback. Honestly, if she's allowed to shred tanks like a Riven shredding Skuttle, then she should be completely vulnerable to any dives or focus fire.
Unpaladin1 votesayyo hold up a second this shit won't work I'll have you know everyone's already forgotten how strong vayne was before her Q burst buff happened so you can't talk about her balance for like another 7 months
For some reason a few folks thought Vayne actually had problems before getting that fucking-ridiculous Q buff, and now it's been nerfed they treat the situation like she's in worse condition than she started they've completely lost their minds fam
Unlucky471 votesYeah I started playing her about 2 months before the buff and I built crit on her anyways and then the completely unneeded buff came out and everyone was like "Oh the koreans are building crit vayne omg it's so strong" like it's real funny how that works. The only difference is it isn't one shot anymore it's back to two.
watch the bush1 votesCry more, LOL.
k wìx1 voteslol, no.
Tatrii1 votesAre you bronze?