Why does Kindred do so much fucking damage?

ExplodingFist66··1 votes·1,433 views

Serious question. This champion has no limits to where it is weak. Tank or squishy, Kindred will just always shred them. Armor? Black Cleaver item 3071. Health? Bloodrazor item 1419 and Blade of the Ruined King item 3153. You're squishy? Critical strike item 3031. You wanna kill Kindred? Nope, she has infinite life steal and R.

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Dr Endeavor2 votes

I dont know the match you had that caused this post... but the majority of the time you die horrible deaths to Kindred is because you let her stack up. Like Chogath, she gets 6 freebies off jungle camps and then gets one stack for every takedown on a marked champ. If she is shredding your team, its because no one bothered to keep her from getting her stacks.

ExplodingFist661 votes

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I dont know the match you had that caused this post... but the majority of the time you die horrible deaths to Kindred is because you let her stack up. Like Chogath, she gets 6 freebies off jungle camps and then gets one stack for every takedown on a marked champ. If she is shredding your team, its because no one bothered to keep her from getting her stacks.

My real problem with this champion is her insane synergy with red smite and Press the Attack. Her E makes it so you can't really do shit but run away because the third proc does crazy damage with PTA + red smite burn, even worse with red buff. She's just too good early and late game.

Wordson1x1 votes

Conq is better on Kindred. PTA is good, but Conq is worse. Also the E does a lot of damage if they have marks. So again, you let them freely get marks. This might be because of your jg or you idk I wasn't in the game that you were in to make this post. Either way Kindred is a late game character. They are a ADC so they will do a lot of damage but also have low HP.

DC50Athletics1 votes

Speaking as a kindred player myself she actually gets INFINITE jungle stacks. Once she hits 8 mark stacks her marks start appearing on dragon/baron, and she caps out mechanically at 25 stacks, which would take a while to obtain.

Sorry, just a little fact.

Dr Endeavor1 votes

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Speaking as a kindred player myself she actually gets INFINITE jungle stacks. Once she hits 8 mark stacks her marks start appearing on dragon/baron, and she caps out mechanically at 25 stacks, which would take a while to obtain.

Sorry, just a little fact.

Right, but she only gets like 6 from things like gromp and scuttler crab before its only players and epic monsters right? Thats what I was trying to say lol

heroikc2 votes

They're a jungle marksman, they're sort of supposed to do that. You should try to control/protect those with marks to slow her down.

Wordson1x2 votes

Another person who doesn't understand how much counter play this champion has. Kindred is a jg ADC the ONLY jg ADC. They are built around marks which if you let them freely get marks you're in for a world of hurt.

She also has some of the lowest HP in the jg, meaning other then her ult she can get 1 shot.

CC is also a nightmare VS Kindred since the champion is about kitting and dancing around with their Q.

Kanzler1 votes

Because kindred needs enough damage to clear the jungle. They barely have that so I'm not sure what problems you ran i to.

DC50Athletics1 votes

Kindred is a jungling ADC, which means she has all of the damage potential of a normal ADC with the unpredictability factor of a roaming jungler. Her kit is also HIGHLY focused on attack speed and getting out a high crit rate. Rapid Firecannon and such are all very good items for her as they boost attack speed and crit rate.

She doesn't need BoRK either as her E has some %health damage in it already under certain variables, and she's more likely to build mortal reminder or Lord Dom Regard over black cleaver.

Honestly though, she's SUPER squishy if you CC her. Like, I'm not even joking dead in two seconds squishy. The problem is getting close enough to actually DO that if you allowed her to get 10+ stacks... because every 3 mark stacks after her 4th mark adds to her autoattack range. At 25 marks she has an aa range of 750. That's over half the range of Caitlyn's ult (1300).

One solution is to shut her down early game, when she is squishy and has no items. Another is a good long chainstun/CC combo. Like with any carry, though, she becomes a MONSTER when she has enough gold to build.

Also, for lifesteal she's more likely to roll Bloodthirster for the extra damage to make her crits hit that much harder than any other source of lifesteal.

GarfieldOnACouch1 votes

So seeing this I gotta say Kindred is brutal when she's fed but one of the best ways to stop that is shut her down early. Kill her marks before she can and stomp her early game. She's actually quite squishy before she gets fed. Shut her down quick and she won't be too much of a problem. Keep an eye out on her though because she'll start playing catch up if she's smart and can sneak up on you.

Also she's a priority in team fight in my opinion because if left to her own devices she can melt your entire team. CC her and shut her down. She's brutal when fed but when starving she's squishy. Many ADC's and champion killers are.

I think the main issue you have is lack of match up knowledge.

TL;DR shut her down early and use crowd control so you can shut her down effectively. Steal her marks in jungle and don't let her get fed.

Hope this helps in the future.

DC50Athletics1 votes

Garfield would know, too, he's seen me get completely shut down as Kindred more than a few times.

GarfieldOnACouch1 votes

Not to mention I've fought my fair share of Kindred mains. What I say is from experience.

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