Do you think Lee Sin's mobility is a bit too much?

WinBoat·Feb 9, 2016·4 votes·765 views

So I main Riven on this account, her mobility is great, she can catch most people and stuff, but unlike Lee Sin, she's very squishy, doesn't have a ranged skill to place you at the enemy, and she don't hard counter most top laners in this meta or the last few actually unlike Lee Sin who hard counters most junglers in the game, and hell can be played top with success.

With that in mind, why is Lee allowed to have such good mobility? I get it, he does tons of damage and destroys his jungler counterpart that isn't a tank, but he is super hard to catch when he does get caught out.

Also, will Udyr ever get nerfed? His movement speed is insane, and again he can be extremely tanky. Just change his name to Penta Kill.

7 Comments

CppLFeb 9, 20163 votes

i dont understand why lee has 350 base ms,while having insane mobility.That doesnt make any sense...

GinoSoldierFeb 9, 20162 votes

The only thing that makes me hate Lee Sin is how every game he's in is all about him early. No matter who else is on the field, there isn't another single champion that puts so much pressure on the game. People always have to keep their escapes and reserves solely for him because of how much all over the place and inescapable he is.

Put a Lee jungle with a Vayne, Thresh, Zed and Irelia team, almost every time, Lee's going to be the one you have to actively counter and watch out for just because he's among the best at just about everything early game. Counterjungling, clearing, ganking, counterganking, doesn't matter. There's never a situation where Lee is at a straight disadvantage early unless he meets someone fed, and even then.

WinBoatFeb 9, 20162 votes

Don't forget that Lee Sin is probably the best at turret diving quite literally. He will dive in and kick you out for the KO, then just escape with ease from the turret shots with ease.

HoukagoFapTimeFeb 9, 20162 votes

No, his mobility is fine. I think his AD scalings are pretty insane though. As for Udyr, he recently became popular thanks to that Trick2G build with the new AP jungle item. As soon as that item is nerfed, he'll disappear again. Because that item has to be nerfed, the mov.speed it gives is too much.

Darkslayer85Feb 9, 20161 votes

I hate how items need to be nerfed because of one champion who can abuse it. Now us Nid and Diana junglers will have to stick to the warrior enchnatment.

GinoSoldierFeb 9, 20161 votes

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I hate how items need to be nerfed because of one champion who can abuse it. Now us Nid and Diana junglers will have to stick to the warrior enchnatment.

Just play straight mage junglers then. I've found that Orianna and Lux among others can clear quite well and have good gank potential. (Ori's better if you have laners with good engage though.) The +10% MS and the damage+mana restore proc from Runic Echoes makes them way better than they were before too.

AbyssphereFeb 9, 20161 votes

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I hate how items need to be nerfed because of one champion who can abuse it. Now us Nid and Diana junglers will have to stick to the warrior enchnatment.

No, Nid and Diana junglers will not have to stick to the Warrior enchant. You will continue to buy the AP enchant unless it is gutted to the point where you just shouldn't purchase it ever.