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Why does pyke get another "your cut" on his ult?

JuiceBoxP··42 votes·14,513 views

I am a pyke main, previously defended pyke before his solo-lane nerfs.....(as some of you might know) TBH, i am cool with the nerfs he got on 1.13 because they didn't affect his support role very much.

But then i saw this buff.... I'm asking, why in the fricking world would they do that? What deficiencies he has right now that he deserves to get not 300, but 600 gold on assist, or 300(your cut)+kill gold+bounty shut down - which on a fed enemy could be like 1300 gold total for a single kill on a fed enemy.

I'm a main, and i say this not okay, riot.

He's a support for god's sakes. The only thing you're doing is pushing supports to get more gold.

But then it hit me...

Pyke is getting a legendary skin soon.

Season 8 Vayne all over again. More unneeded, uncalled-for buffs just to sell your legendary skin. Disgusting.

Edit: I just finished a couple of games... you get enough gold to buy a full item from doing a triple kill.... this is just absurd.

In this game i was pretty fed, but still, the amount of gold i had in that game was beyond ridiculous. https://imgur.com/VQiOd12

17 Comments

The thigh guy11 votes

Because new legendary skin. Dur.

Anime Fizz10 votes

Pyke is gigabusted right now, stupíd champ.

Ilovemobas4 votes

He is the draven of supports a true moneymaker.

Illabethe2 votes

Initially it was to compensate for his loss of Q utility and the fact they were nerfing his SPLASH R damage by 50%.

But, they were also going to raise his R scaling to 200% of AD + 200% of Lethality, so that 50% damage ironically was going to be similar to its damage before..... while the main hit threshold was going to go up to ~1400.

They decided to get rid of that insane buff, but keep the bounty, because after his nerfs, Pyke needs items faster to be relevant.

JuiceBoxP2 votes

{quoted}

Initially it was to compensate for his loss of Q utility and the fact they were nerfing his SPLASH R damage by 50%.

But, they were also going to raise his R scaling to 200% of AD + 200% of Lethality, so that 50% damage ironically was going to be similar to its damage before..... while the main hit threshold was going to go up to ~1400.

They decided to get rid of that insane buff, but keep the bounty, because after his nerfs, Pyke needs items faster to be relevant.

I see what you mean... that way he gets strong only if he is doing good

QuM1tSuk3 YT2 votes

Well, I'm a jungle Pyke main. When you say he's a support you're offending me.

jng dif victim1 votes

i play jungle yummi . does that mean every time someone says yummi is a support i should get offended ?

QuM1tSuk3 YT1 votes

Honestly I'm just kidding. Its obvious that I'm kidding but you guys serious even in urf. omfg these humans

1 Inch and Proud1 votes

the way i took it is he doesnt get any bounty gold anymore. its a straight 300. and 600 on assist.

PB4UAME7 votes

Except, that's entirely wrong.

He gets 600 + assist gold on every assists, and 300 + 300 kill gold + bounty on kills.

If someone dies on his ult, he gets a MINIMUM OF 600G

ArtumisPrime1 votes

Call me pedantic, but

If someone dies on his ult, he gets a MINIMUM OF 600G

is only true if the target is worth 300+ gold when he gets the killing blow.

PB4UAME1 votes

True, I suppose if the target is feeding, he gets 300 + kill value gold for a kill. But still, ridiculous, unneeded gold for an already overloaded AF support.

hrooza dota 1 votes

i think they wanted to give him a small rework by nerfing non lethal R and making it hyper rewording to kill with R

tho the reword is way to big atm

the waterdog1 votes

Pyke has always been a feast or famine "support". He locks in that position but does not really play support. The only reason he plays bot lane is his inability to farm properly. The proper way to play Pyke is generally to be extremely selfish, even in your support duties. When I changed my style from roaming early to staying in lane to get my ADC fed that was a selfish decision because the easiest way to get fed is a fed ADC. There are a few different ways to play him, but it should all be selfish.

You cannot group him and any other support, it is pointless to compare them. You almost can't compare him to any other champ in the game w/ his passive. The way you describe him makes me think you don't understand him very well.

Feels like you're ignoring the nerf on his R damage while writing this. The splash damage was a decent sized part when trying to pop off on multiple people. The indicator for his ult being on reset is also a decent nerf for lower elos or shit even my elo.

I think the buff might be a bit much, but it's not even close to what you describe. Pyke cannot effectively use the gold he gains compared to other champions. There is a reason solo lane Pyke just kinda did what support Pyke does but slightly quicker w/ solo XP. It is also fell apart the same way when not popping off.

Daddy Ants1 votes

{quoted}

Season 8 Vayne all over again.

Vayne didn't receive a legendary in 2018.

Lucian did

BackdoorPrincess1 votes

I'm more upset with how you can't even barrier bait that shit, grievous wounds is essentially in every buildpath now so heals aren't even a safe way to do it, he gets a nice marker for that execute when the only other re-settable dunk doesn't "because the bleed is too hard to code with it" (apparently scaling off of level lethality and ad isn't tho), AND it gives full kill gold to one other person.

Can't poke out of lane, you know, the thing you do to most heavy engage supports, has a stun that's also a dash, goes invisible and gains speed based off of ad also, a passive that gives more ad instead of health, and the highest base armor in the fucking game

Gut this champion already

Harden Stepback1 votes

Buffs in line with legendary skin release. Riot really cant help themselves eh?

Shameful

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