Is ryze even useable

d4rkshock··2 votes·755 views

Ryze has the lowest winrate out of any champion. At after his 3rd kit, nobody knew how to play him at all. They just couldn't figure him out. When they did, he got hit with Nerf after Nerf with the Nerf to his root being the final nail in the coffin. Anyways he's similar to riven. I'm, it's kind of a shame he's not doing too well because he's the staple champion of lol and I played him a lot when he got his first rework. His first kit was cancer because he was a complete faceroll. Just won out a can of spell spam and destroy. Push r to waveclear. His second kit actually made you take time to get the muscle memory since the passive lasted for only a few seconds after 4 spells. I rarely see him. It isn't until higher elo where his winrate isn't the lowest. He doesn't have a skill ceiling or if he does, it goes into space. Always room for improvement.he's somewhat tanky. He has great late game scaling. He Deals 1000 damage form an empowered q late. He so has great waveclear. Anyways is ryze useable.

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Peritheus1 votes

No... He's scrollable.

Poske1 votes

He is top tier in high elo

Infernape1 votes

In an organised team, yes. In casual play, not really.

SEKAI1 votes

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In an organised team, yes. In casual play, not really.

In casual play, his ulti is only good for trolling people. Too bad you can't even do the zhonya-tp-lelelele anymore and you have to put in more effort just to do the troll escape that Ryze's R is usually only good for in casual solo play.

Infernape1 votes

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In casual play, his ulti is only good for trolling people. Too bad you can't even do the zhonya-tp-lelelele anymore and you have to put in more effort just to do the troll escape that Ryze's R is usually only good for in casual solo play.

That's why you never trust an allied Ryze ulti.

SEKAI1 votes

Outside of ulti which you kinda need to feed a couple matches to get a hang of, given it's really not a good spell for solo play due to its long cast time, rather short distance of teleport (at least until the second level up), and the fact it can be so easily interrupted (you can not longer cast it and wait for it to finish while Zhonya'ed for cheese escape, too).

The rest of his kit is fine.

  • First thing to remember, your W and E will reset Q's CD every time you cast them. So your combos will always be alternating W and E to ensure you can chain as many Qs as possible. QWQEQ is probably your go-to combo in this regard, for reference.
  • Your E will have extremely short CD once you max it and stack some CDR. In continuation of the point above, you can pretty much chain combo with just QEQE... once its CD is short enough via leveling and stacking CDR as well.
  • E is also your most important spell, you will want to remember its additional effects when chained with other things by heart.
  • E -> E on the same target means the E will spread to nearby units, and will continue to spread through other near-by previously E-marked units until there is none; and the marks will spread damage from Ryze's Q and E (if Q'ed the mark will be consumed upon spread, if E'ed the mark will be renewed together with more spread). And if the target dies to ANY of Ryze's ability when marked by E (INCLUDING the E you're just throwing out), the E will also spread to nearby units. This is incredibly important, because this allows Ryze to clear massive waves in an instant, by throwing E on E-marked units or killing E-marked units with your other spells to spread it further and further and then finish everything in 1 hit of say, Q. You can also use E -> E -> Q for teamfights to hit everybody but you will have to wait for CD, but unfortunately this is one of the few only ways Ryze can join teamfights (he sucks in teamfights, because his Q can only hit what's in front of Ryze, making him reliant on good position or E spread to do teamfights).
  • E -> W is pretty simple, it just means your W will have a longer root.
  • E -> Q is also rather simple, it just means your Q will do more damage.
  • There is another aspect to Q's damage where if you do chain EWQ or EEQ combo within 4 seconds, then the Q will have another bonus damage.
  • Use both Transcendence and Cosmic Insight for Runes, and focus on stacking CDR, Mana, and AP, the 3 core stats Ryze uses.
  • You will also need Manaflow Band (rune), and rush Tear of the Goddess as well as either Lost Chapter or Catalyst for your early game mana, otherwise you will be incredibly starved on your mana. Your current core items should include Archangel's Staff, Zhonya's Hourglass, Ionian Boots of Lucidity, and Luden's Echo.
  • You should learn E first, and try to use it to help last hitting. Maxing E early is also desired for much lower CD for spamming, but you don't want to rush too too much given your Q also needs damage. The typical route is putting 3 points in E, and 3 points in Q, before going back to maxing E (and you put either 1 point in W either in level 2 or 3 and max it last).
  • Also remember, your R only has 2 points, while Q has 6.
  • Ryze's early game is also very rough given his pitiful early damage in both his spells and AA, as well as his huge mana cost. But it gets better as you start rolling. By late game he can mow down almost any minion wave in instants and out duel most champs in 1v1 by machine-gunning his opponents with spell barrage.

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