What does everyone think about new galio

d4rkshock··9 votes·2,396 views

I just got done with my first galio game after the rework. I played the old one before just to see what he's like and he was clunky AF and did way too much damage. I wouldn't quite call new galio specialized. Since you will usually get an ap mid. That's where I played him. He's a good situational top. His innitaition works good if you have a diver or another innitiator. He also has decent damage. Do on the scale to e- to s+, where is he. I give him an A based on how I did with him.

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Big Lincoln11 votes

bad rework, does too many things while not excelling at any one in particular

probably going to be utility cancer just like Ivern

Gregor Gysi1 votes

Really, what does he do? Counterengage and some utility, that's it. His base damage is probably too high rn but they'll adjust that. Doesn't seem like a JOAT.

Mannny6 votes

Old Galio>New Galio

xNejiix6 votes

It's a bit laughable to call this a rework; it's effectively a new champion.

FiddlesOnTheRoof5 votes

As a mild fan of old Galio, I do not care for new one. Now, before anyone accuses me of being just a QQ "this rework sux" kind of guy, know that I TYPICALLY think the reworks are very well done (outside of my beloved Malz, who isn't any fun anymore). I think this Galio design would've been perfect on a brand new champion. No one would've even said "this feels like Galio". They didn't really retain his identity. I was really really hoping they'd keep his ult. Old Galio had one of the most fun ults in the game. Most of the reworks try to keep the ultimates similar, so i was really hoping they'd do so here. No such luck.

TLDR- this kit would've been great on a brand new champ and still wouldn't have really infringed on Galio's archetype. I wish they wouldve given Galio a different rework and retained his ultimate.

Just my two cents. Hope I'm in the minority and all you guys are enjoying him.

Gregor Gysi1 votes

But they kept his ultimate in form of his W - which makes sense as his old ult was broken, so moving it to W was the only way to keep it. I'd say it was kinda comparable to old Poppy ultimate, just unbalancable.

I mean I get why people would miss the old champion when they get such a huge update, but I think when it comes to keeping his ultimate they really did their best to keep it's spirit.

Galiö5 votes

When I played him on PBE. Decent champ but not galio. After nerfs on PBE crappy champ and not galio.

Gregor Gysi1 votes

I think he is pretty good right now, but certainly not Galio, it seems that he will be much tankier than old Galio.

Sorry for your loss.

Galiö3 votes

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I think he is pretty good right now, but certainly not Galio, it seems that he will be much tankier than old Galio.

Sorry for your loss.

He is Nowhere near as tanky as old Galio. Not even close tbh

Gregor Gysi1 votes

With that I mean that he is probably going to build tankier than the old one due to the base damages and his fight patterns.

Very Hard Engage3 votes

lacking damage as a mid laner.

sub par as a solo laner tank.

has the capacity to afk farm.

can still flash taunt, but theres a lot of other flash ults id want to consider before i picked galio for it.

4/10 overall.

where old galio was a 6/10.

Gregor Gysi3 votes

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lacking damage as a mid laner.

Really? I feel like he deals way too much damage rn so that he can actually mid.

sub par as a solo laner tank.

Why is that? His base damages are just broken, just wait ~two months.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

its quite the opposite, everyone (even someone like alistar) will do a comparative amount of damage as galio does. galio has to play a lot better and land twice as many skill shots.

what you're experiencing is Q poke before hand then followed up on a 800hp mid laner, which anyone can get through when you're at a 1~2 item stage.

as for tanking, although he has %mitigation and mobility, his abilities are straight telegraphed so he can only punish poor positioning, not that he will start a fight reliably or save a team mate, hes just too slow and cant be reactive, so that means he needs to be proactive, but you cant proactively make the enemy team play poorly.

Gregor Gysi1 votes

Honestly, let's just save this and come back later when we see how it turned out, alright?

AlienPrimate3 votes

I think it is trash compared to what the old Galio had. The reason I liked the old one is because his sustain. New Galio has no sustain.

Hyperiön1 votes

Get a item 3146 then xD

AlienPrimate1 votes

For that to compare to his old W you would have to deal about 5k damage every 7 seconds.

Sire Hippington3 votes

As a new champ? Not bad, quite fun to use kit(though his new E is somewhat clunky and not useable in the jungle) and a strong tank, though probably a bit overloaded and due to nerfs once people figured how to use him properly. B+

As Rework? Complete failure! He's got nothing in common with old Galio, The new art is completely different with not even a bit resemblance of the old one, His character and vo lines completely changed, and his gameply is vastly different aswell. E-

He's karma all over again, the old galio just got deleted for no good reason and then they released a new one with just the same name. Thats not a rework, a rework should atleast try to preserve the core of a champion, both as a character(story/art/vo) aswell as gameplay. Even Sion retained alot more of his former self, and his former version really didn't give much to work with. But it seems like riot just says 'screw it, neverliked that guy so we'll just make a entierly new champ'-,-

Chimp Joker1 votes

What? I think they did preserve the core of the champion. He's an anti-mage tank that protects his (Demacian) allies. By your definition of what a rework is, it practically sounds like you only wanted Riot to change numbers on his old kit (in other words, giving him a buff/nerf).

Sire Hippington4 votes

The anti mage theme always was pretty shallow and certainly not very important to his identity, and that's about all they kept.

You certainly didn't play Old Galio at all If you think this one feels anything like it. Old Galio was more like a battle mage, haveing rather subtle controll tools like the slow on his Q and the speedzone of his E, beeing temprorarily tanky with his W and haveing his big moments with the ult. Now he has a dash, a semi global ult with wierd targeting, his aoe taunt as chargeup without the big final that made it feel so great on his ult, no longer ranged soft cc, no sustain, no speedbuff for his allies. He was a mage that had windows in which he worked as a tank, now he's a tank with one spamable ranged skill that tries to cover the mage like feel but simply doen't succede at that.

If you look at a good rework gameplay wise, take Poppy. She retained her wall stun-charge, she stayed rather bursty with hit n run patterns in lane, they even found a way to give her a new healthy ult that still allows to find isolated fights while her old ult was the main reason for the rework, and she still is great at diveing the backline and zoneing the carry. She feels pretty similar to old poppy in her playpatterns, the only critic there would be that she no longer can be used as a melee carry, though there are still people out there haveing succes with Ad heavy builts.

And for Galio: Yes, i think he didn't need a big gameplay update, Reworking his passive(the new one is pretty good) and some smaller adjustments to the rest of his kit would have been enough. He didn't have huge game health issues that demand drastic changes like Sion or Poppy had. A modernisation of his kit would have been enough, no full redesign needed.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

He's got nothing in common with old Galio

He has a taunt he has extra power vs magic damage dealers and thats already 2 obvious things. You are not honest or extremely biased or a mix of both.

Funkin Dunkin2 votes

Yorick

Titanium703 votes

Well, they basicly deleted Galio and released a new Champion accidently named Galio. That's my point of view.

This new Champ is not to bad - has some interesting tools but will basicly be an Ult-Bot that eats a few hits when done. (Did anyone mention Malphite?)

option paralysis2 votes

I played him as support and honestly I thought he would be a lot better. E is kind hard to hit because of that charge up shit and ults are rarely spot on.. I felt like if I was playing braum, I would be doing the same job much better. Dunno about him on solo lanes.

Teslyn1 votes

new support / jungler incoming

Skias1 votes

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new support / jungler incoming

QT hates him as support. Said he's garbage high elo.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

I played against him once. Kind of seems like a Malph rip off lol.

COBRA C0MM4NDER1 votes

I tried him as jg, worked better than expected.

Was able to clear Red then wolves and blue using the machete + 3 pots on one run. (went Q first, then E...afterwards the W)

only prob i had was Pantheon gave me some trouble...and the feeder idiots you encounter in blind pick. other than that, feels very solid.

like a statue.

IceW LumiNeon1 votes

i played him 3 games in a row as a support, i think his e is a little to short range and his r is not fun either, you use it once and it goes on a extreme long cooldown of almost 3 min. i think i miss tho old galio tho but this one has a little potential but right now i think nautilus or amumu are better picks.

i am gold - plat player

Limrick1 votes

His ult feels terrible to use at rank 1

d4rkshock1 votes

His ult has a long ass cool down so u agree. I thought he was mid or top but now he's jg.

Requiemsfire1 votes

He's probably a better jungler than laner.

zaire901 votes

As a person who played against old Galio just glad i dont have to worry about a champ that pretty much shuts down all ap champs gonna miss the old guy for those wombo combo tfs

JRobin311 votes

I wasn't a Galio player before rework and haven't decided if I ever will be yet.

I think the new Galio looks pretty cool visually but it is absolutely hilarious the way they gave him breathing movements on the loading screen animation. You know these sorts of movements are a graphic standard in order to make champions seem more life-like, but Galio is a freakin' gargoyle! I lolled so hard. lololololol

As for his in game play, he looks cool, but I haven't been impressed yet. I've been able to beat him easily so far, so I think we need to wait for some serious "Galio Mains" to get gud' wit' the rework and show us what the champion can really do. After trashing him in ranked play pretty hard, I looked up his new skill set for the first time to see what he was actually supposed to be doing in game. It looks like he is supposed to tank mages.... maybe that's why I trounced him with Xin Zhao. To be fair, I don't think our Ahri did too well that game.

Blakiepug1 votes

As a player who personally hate to jungle, it feels really bad that jungle is Galio's new meta position. He just feels so different from the old Galio. Old Galio was all about his ult and big damage, now he is situational cc monster? Don't get me wrong, I like me some cc monsters (see my Nautilus mastery), but even then I preferred old Galio's cc. His new W aoe taunt doesn't last as long and as a result feels significantly less impactful. I also didn't enjoy his new ult. As cool as it looks, it just feels clunky to use and the payoff for hitting a 5 man ult doesn't feel as fulfilling as it did with his old aoe taunt ult. Essentially, for me, new Galio's cc doesn't feel as unique as before and the damage output being lowered is a big letdown.

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

As soon as he comes out he's taken off the champ rotation so i havent played.

GG RIOT.

PhDs Nuts1 votes

Galio =Pantheon Shen Malphite

Panshephite

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Played against a toxic Vayne who kept complaining that our ADC is just getting carried while she kept trying to go in solo with flash ult over walls and other shit.

We punished her with the Malphite Galio Yasuo combo and it was truly glorious.

I am playing blind pick for now because 2 Galios are better than no Galio.

Friendly Ram1 votes

I love him as a support and he dives amazingly well. he's great for initiation and peel but i wish his ult wasn't canceled so easily.

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