Rank Elitism isn't a boards issue, it's an in game issue

deadlychuck··5 votes·696 views

People talk about people using rank to discredit arguments or justify ignoring feedback on the boards.

However, i think that this is not really where most of it occurs. It's far more common to see people complaining about your in game decisions, based on their prospective, then ignoring your perfectly sound explanation as to why you did what you did, and how doing what they wanted you to do would've resulted in a worse result.

The problem isn't that the person posting on the boards is using rank as an argument. The problem is that by giving someone a rank, which can't be assumed to accurately gauge skill of players in normal games, is viewed by the average player as a credible representation of a player.

I think it would be beneficial to only make the borders appear on the in game prostrates in their respective ranked game modes, or at the very least not in blind pick.

E.g. In my recent game (blind pick), me and my morg support got caught in between 4 enemies due to a ryze ult. But somehow I apparently had worse map awareness **because ** "i'm silver". Ryze Xayah Rakan TwistedFate

when they collapsed on us, they initially focused morg. Then she actived her zonays, so I took the opportunity to escape, because they had collapsed onto her, and circle around for the counter engage from my team who were still probably 4-5 seconds out. Keeping myself alive, which resulted in 2 extra kills and one less death.

She then goes on a tirade, about how i have no map awareness and that it's evidenced by the fact that i'm silver, and therefore bad.

let's ignore the fact my season 6 rank was based on a sum total of 61 flex queue games with friends 1/4 of which were on morde... in season 6... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

18 Comments

EazyMakaveli24 votes

unless ur gold of higher idc what u say about anything.

doodlebob6664 votes

so im a higher influence on shen than Melledoneus who has more shen games and a way better winrate, because i climbed using completely different champs?

I get not wanting to get adc or the value of champs from people in low elo, but they still have valid opinions that can be very insightful, even if their game knowledge is limited

EazyMakaveli22 votes

any opinion below gold is worthless.

doodlebob6663 votes

so when i was s1 in promo's to gold then i don't have an opinion with value?

SwiftKitten882 votes

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so when i was s1 in promo's to gold then i don't have an opinion with value?

anyone who thinks "rank" is the only way to measure how much u know about the game is a moron.

knowing what to do and when is a LOT different than being able to convince your team to do that...

EazyMakaveli22 votes

no, u dont.

deadlychuck2 votes

I mean i am gold, as in back in season 3 i played ranked for the first, and only, time with the goal to rank up. It took me about a week as support main to go from silver 4 to gold 5, and i stopped playing the moment i hit gold. All for the elise skin :P

Not to mention, a solid 70% of my teammates in solo blind are plat or diamond, so i get the feeling that their unranked MMR is probably around where i'd end up. Mid plat - low diamond. Just because i enjoy having fun in the games I play instead of investing in some meaningless ranking system doesn't mean I rank poorly in it.

Automated Riven4 votes

Using rank as validity is a flawed way to argue. I don't play alot of ranked. And even when I do I typically treat them as normals. I have played more games on some champions then their mains have simply because I have been around years longer then most people. I know alot about how the game works and stuff like that even thought I am not very good at it. Saying my opinion or view doesn't matter just makes you look stupid.

EazyMakaveli22 votes

dude if you are silver and say that you know how the game works then you are the one who looks stupid.

Automated Riven2 votes

just because I have never attempted to get good at the game and usually dont even worry about making correct calls or whatever doesnt mean I dont know how the game works. I understand 'creep manipulation' and 'last hitting' and 'EXP' and 'freezing' and 'shoving' and 'level advantages' and 'creep agro' and so on. All these things are very important to understand and use to your advantage to get out of low elo. (and I hate to break it to you but gold is shit elo too.) but understanding how it works and actually bothering to play around it are two diferent things. FFS there are people who literally coded the game and wrote it who play in mid silver and low gold. I think in season 2 either ryze or tryndemere was trashtalked for having a low mmr. understanding how the game works and actually being able to mechanically translate that into game and actually think and evaluate the correct course of action in game are two very different things. I have played this game since mid season 1 and i have never put any effort in to getting good at these things. Just because I understand how it works does not mean I am proficiant at them. I also understand how to strip a gun and reassemble it. but I have literally never done that and so if I were to try it would take me a few minutes to get it. where as people who practice can do it in like 20 seconds or less. I also understand how to shoot accuratly and to use a sight picture on a gun. But being as how I never shoot I probably wouldnt translate that into a shooting range well. SO yes I can claim I understand the game without looking stupid because I also dont claim to be good at it.

I mean take at look at 1800midlane. guy literally has the highest Azir score in the world with like 2.4 million or something stupid like that. and he is silver 1. but I damn sure know that he knows more about azir then most azir casual players up to probably high plat or low diamond.

EazyMakaveli22 votes

lol wtf are you talking about. nothing you say means shit if you dont have a rank to support it.

also, tldr lol

Automated Riven4 votes

your gold,.... you dont have a rank to support it either. doesnt mean that you dont know shit about the game. You obviously dont know shit about reality but the game... idk

EazyMakaveli21 votes

stfu bronze. go feed

deadlychuck1 votes

I'm "silver" and i know very well how the game works. xD

ME UNGA ME SMASH1 votes

Guess it's a good thing you're silver, so I don't have to care about anything you say.

Mataka Tek2 votes

There should be a NEW game options called "Ranked, same rank" where all players have to be of the same rank.

You will have far fewer of those comments. Nevertheless, EasyMakaveli2 types will always exist, and try to demean you. (even if it was just a joke reply, they do exist)

KoggyStyle1 votes

:P atleast i can listen to you without losing iq.

rtbf2216514121 votes

It's both.

People who used rank as an excuse to make stupid comments is like...

Someone saying Super Smash Brother's Melee is virtual reality and not admitting they are wrong.

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