Why do I lose full LP when my team has a score like 0-15 at 10 minutes?

Yenn·Feb 6, 2015·3 votes·433 views

And more importantly, why aren't they punished for playing like shit?

13 Comments

Deep Terror NamiFeb 6, 20152 votes

Because it's a team game, and personal score is not an accurate reflection on how they affected the outcome of the game.

Nucleophilic atkFeb 6, 20151 votes

It is a huuuuuuge reflection, generally speaking lol.

Leti the YetiFeb 6, 20151 votes

well I was nasus and died 9 times, but I took 6 towers and 3 inhibitors, so I got that going for me, which is nice

Fox TangoFeb 6, 20151 votes

a KDA assessment does not reflect on how well an individual carried a game to victory. Sure removing opponants away from towers via death is one way, but that does not reflect on the late game split pusher that went 1/4 in lane but took 4 towers alone.

I had a game where a LeBlanc top trolled. Went to lane, got a kill, went back to our nexus (outside of fountain) and stayed there. For a few minutes. Go back out get another kill on low hp target. Back, buy, and then camp nexus. This started while we all still had towers mind you. Not some late game protection. She ended the game 14/0/0 or some other teen number, but contributed nothing to the overall team objective control.

IMO its abuse-able.

YennFeb 6, 20151 votes

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a KDA assessment does not reflect on how well an individual carried a game to victory. Sure removing opponants away from towers via death is one way, but that does not reflect on the late game split pusher that went 1/4 in lane but took 4 towers alone.

I had a game where a LeBlanc top trolled. Went to lane, got a kill, went back to our nexus (outside of fountain) and stayed there. For a few minutes. Go back out get another kill on low hp target. Back, buy, and then camp nexus. This started while we all still had towers mind you. Not some late game protection. She ended the game 14/0/0 or some other teen number, but contributed nothing to the overall team objective control.

If the score is 0-15, the enemy team can end the game right then and there. This will happen every single time in Diamond.

If the game is over at or before 20 minutes and a bunch of players have scores like 0-5-0, there's a serious problem.

Fox TangoFeb 6, 20151 votes

I'm sure Riot sees the problem with people that grief games, the implied conversation is that KDA is the factor to judge this. I disagree as that it would simply allow for more abusive behavior rather than solve it.

Deep Terror NamiFeb 6, 20151 votes

You just said "generally" but you're contesting my claim of accuracy...

Which is it?

A Support who has high deaths doesn't mean he deserves less IP or some kind of penalty; he may very well have won the game for his team because he repeatedly sacrificed himself to prevent the deaths of carries. There are more factors to winning than just having the highest KDA

YennFeb 6, 20151 votes

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Because it's a team game, and personal score is not an accurate reflection on how they affected the outcome of the game.

Uh, yes, it is. The game is 100% lost if you're above Silver, at that point. Their support can likely solo your ADC.