I think I figured out how to solve the tank issue.

AR URF·Jan 30, 2019·1 votes·1,233 views

Give flat magic pen and lethality items more lethality BUT the catch is that it scales and you actually have to land abilities.

: 45 movement speed

4 magic pen

New- Unique:Growing power: Landing an ability stacks magic pen of 6 for a total of 22 magic pen(that includes the 4 magic pen.

: magic pen reduced to 10 from 15

New-Unique:Corrode: After landing 3 abilities, deal 10-40 bonus magic damage

Duskblade: 3-8 lethality depending on level

New- Unique: Piercing blade: landing abilities grants 4 lethality for a total of 12 lethality

Changed-Nightstalker: Same as before and proccing nightstalker applies all stacks of piercing blade

I'll update the list When I can think of more stuff.

6 Comments

MrHaZeYoJan 30, 20193 votes

Lethality already scales.

Lethality = Flat Armor Pen.

Dirk has 10 Lethality. You only gain 6 Flat Armor Pen at Lv1, scaling to 10 at Lv18.

The reason MPenn is flat and doesn't scale is because MR cock blocks AP more then Armor does AD. Mages are also CD based Champions, and a lot of them have at LEAST 1 skills shot. Once they use their Combo, their just sitting there for 5-10 seconds (depending on champ and point in game, times could vary more).

The reason we see the MPenn item (Liandyrs then Morello) more often the last year or so as a second item has more to do with the old runes being removed (no more MR glyphs) and the fact that the other useful second choice AP items are just awful right now, outside of Zhonyas, but in a damage meta it doesn't offer nearly as much damage, so outside of fringe cases, you'll always prefer the raw damage in a burst or be bursted meta.

My two cents.

EDIT: Also tanks could care less about Flat MPen or APen, these stats really only effect squishes. Granted if a tank who built all MR in say a Arams, is still going to die to 5 people focusing him.

AR URFJan 30, 20191 votes

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Lethality already scales.

Lethality = Flat Armor Pen.

Dirk has 10 Lethality. You only gain 6 Flat Armor Pen at Lv1, scaling to 10 at Lv18.

The reason MPenn is flat and doesn't scale is because MR cock blocks AP more then Armor does AD. Mages are also CD based Champions, and a lot of them have at LEAST 1 skills shot. Once they use their Combo, their just sitting there for 5-10 seconds (depending on champ and point in game, times could vary more).

The reason we see the MPenn item (Liandyrs then Morello) more often the last year or so as a second item has more to do with the old runes being removed (no more MR glyphs) and the fact that the other useful second choice AP items are just awful right now, outside of Zhonyas, but in a damage meta it doesn't offer nearly as much damage, so outside of fringe cases, you'll always prefer the raw damage in a burst or be bursted meta.

My two cents.

EDIT: Also tanks could care less about Flat MPen or APen, these stats really only effect squishes. Granted if a tank who built all MR in say a Arams, is still going to die to 5 people focusing him.

yeah but it should scale with abilities, not level.

MrHaZeYoJan 30, 20191 votes

Why do you feel that way? That would make AD assassins who rush Dusk far stronger earlier in the game, simply because they can work with the Duskblade passive you changed so well. So those Zeds, Khas, Wukongs, Rengos, and Talons would do even more early-mid game damage and would spike so much more from that 1 item.

AR URFJan 30, 20191 votes

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Why do you feel that way? That would make AD assassins who rush Dusk far stronger earlier in the game, simply because they can work with the Duskblade passive you changed so well. So those Zeds, Khas, Wukongs, Rengos, and Talons would do even more early-mid game damage and would spike so much more from that 1 item.

They would do a lot of damage, but they would actually have to land abilities. Not have some Talon or Zed Just run up to you, press R, miss some of their abilities, then auto attack and kill you. The idea is that you're REWARDED for playing good, and PUNISHED for playing bad.

MrHaZeYoJan 31, 20191 votes

Changed-Nightstalker: Same as before and proccing nightstalker applies all stacks of piercing blade

No, they would run up, ult and get the whole thing without needing to land a ability lol.

Thing is you're still rewarded now for landing abilities and punished for not

AR URFJan 31, 20191 votes

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No, they would run up, ult and get the whole thing without needing to land a ability lol.

Thing is you're still rewarded now for landing abilities and punished for not

Everything feels so cookie cutter now though. Dying with just a few abilities is boring.