Riven is completely abusive with courage of the colossus.

Dasdi96·Nov 24, 2016·21 votes·1,819 views

She jumps into your team and gets 2k hp shield all while doing massive damage.

28 Comments

ArakadiaNov 24, 20164 votes

I would upvote but you saying she gets a 2k hp shield isn't realistic. Either she built AD so her E gives a good shield but her CoC doesn't or she built tons of HP so CoC would give a good shield but her E and damage isn't any good. If she did a middle ground she still wouldn't reach a 2k shield without allies helping.

Brain Errör 404Nov 24, 20162 votes

I think he's including the E + courage of the colossus shield, which, in all honesty, does give her around a 1.3kish+ Shield.

ArakadiaNov 25, 20162 votes

2k =/= 1.3k though.

GorgiolioNov 25, 20163 votes

But a 1.3k health shield isn't healthy either lmao

ArakadiaNov 25, 20162 votes

He still made up a number thats about 50% more then a full build Riven could get.

Automated RivenNov 25, 20161 votes

when i build her healthy I end with 4k health and can easilly hit 1800 health shields including both CoTC and her E shield. (which I dont stack but I could) and I still do meaningful damage to squishy characters, even healthy ones considering I usually have 350 AD.

ArakadiaNov 25, 20161 votes

Show me your build. Those numbers don't seem to add up.

Automated RivenNov 25, 20161 votes

item 3071 item 3748 item 3158 item 3022 item 3053 450 health 35 ad titanic 300 health 50 ad BC 700 health 30 ad frozen 400 health and like 25 ad sterracks and any of these last item item 3812 item 3072 item 3156 item 3139

LimrickNov 25, 20161 votes

That's a neat build, I might steal that.

Automated RivenNov 25, 20161 votes

just for kicks this is what it looks like in game. [https://youtu.be/Feo1Zvf8WqQ]

Also dont use this build if you have to carry. only use it if you just wanna soak damage for another carry but still want to be able to do some amount of damage.

ArakadiaNov 25, 20161 votes

By the way, just so you know, from my math you only get a 876 hp shield if you stack CoC and E at the same time on average. And the build isn't very strong overall due to how much defense is built and little resistance penetration.

Go ahead if you wanna try it for fun though, tankier bruiser riven sounds cool.

Automated RivenNov 25, 20161 votes

that is true. but in a teamfight when you knock up people in the middle of the team the shield is 190 plus 35% of your max health.

Depending on how many people are there. the ratio is 10+(10 per level) plus 7% of your max health per enemy champion.

ArakadiaNov 25, 20161 votes

Rip. My calculations are off as I forgot it multiples per nearby champion.

Automated RivenNov 25, 20161 votes

You had me going back and rechecking. I was like I dont understand how we are getting like 1200 health difference. XD

ArakadiaNov 25, 20161 votes

If you stack both CoC shield and Valor's shield (E) with that build on average _At level 18 and at full build you will only get a 876 health shield. Unless I did something wrong, that is no were near the 1.3k hp shield you claimed you could get. And even farther from the OP's 2k health shield claim.

Additionally, that build has minimal burst due to how much defense you buy and it has NO resistance shreds so you can't really harm enemies who build properly.

Automated RivenNov 25, 20161 votes

yes your are correct. I use this build if my team has no dedicated tank and there are other people on my team that can carry really hard if i just provide damage and cc. Late game you are still able to 100-0 an isolated adc with w aa 3rd q aa ult empowerd aa from titanic. But in teamfights you play like a tanky disrupter/diver instead of a assassin

and if you proc CoTC with 5 enemies nearby then your shield from CoTC is 1565 (35% of 3929 level 18 health of the runes and masteries with that build) and a 3.6 second cooldown on E wich is 210 base shield and then 334 so 544 and adding the elixer the jumps to 574. so 574 +1565 is 2174 IN CORNER CASE SITUATIONS ONLY but yeah on average its more likely to be doing in between 350 and 700 health shields.

edit in the video I posted above you can clearly see that the CoTC is equal to about 800 health with only two enemies near by .. and that is without E so you did do your math wrong

ArakadiaNov 25, 20161 votes

That makes quite a bit of sense. Good logic.

ArakadiaNov 25, 20162 votes

I've done the math and I can't find it granting a 1.3k shield.

Brain Errör 404Nov 25, 20161 votes

Sorry, I didn't actually do the math. I just had a game with Colossus but didn't account for the fact that I had a Janna on my team. I got around a 1k+ish shield around that time and figured you normally got shields with Colossus and E around that high. Forgive my imprudence, as I don't have the patience to actually calculate it. Thank you for giving us that accurate number.

ArakadiaNov 25, 20161 votes

I forgot to mention that even with her smaller Q and W CC range the 876 shield is for attacking one target. The shield increases by 400 something per enemy nearby. That is going to make a bigger difference, but the build I used was really tanky with bad damage and resistance shred. I used that build as someone said that build gave such a shield and it does but only if your team fighting heavily.

Samflash3Nov 25, 20161 votes

Why not both?

(insert Steraks Gave here)

ForgiveColourNov 24, 20164 votes

tank mastery can never be broken dude thats the rule of gameplay and balance

Sahn UzalNov 25, 20161 votes

That's why everyone, including tank mains agree it's broken :^)

AstôlfoNov 24, 20163 votes

That's why said mastery is getting multiple nerfs.

RalanrNov 24, 20162 votes

It's getting nerfed next patch.

EpicMusicNov 25, 20161 votes

CoC getting nerfed. relax

LimrickNov 25, 20161 votes

Everyone abuses it right now. Luckily it's getting nerfed.

The Final FuryNov 26, 20161 votes

I love how people is focusing on that "2k shield is not true, she gets "ONLY" a 900 shield".

Do you understand that now Riven can get 2 free shields that costs her NOTHING in terms of mana/energy, and she can literally engage with 10% hp vs a full hp assassin, absolutely sure to win the trade?

And I don't care if Colossus is getting nerfed, it will be still op as fuck on a champ that can already SPAM a shield with no delay and no costs.