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The irony of Yasuo "The Unforgiven"

Incognonymous··5 votes·502 views

Considering he's literally one of the most forgiving champs ever made. I'm all for playmaking, so long as there's cognitive decisions being made, but Yas is brainless and hilariously low skillcap.

-Yas has literally the best early game in the shield, and can generate it with no cost to himself, essentially infinite -Throw out Q's whenever possible. It cost no resources, and literally doesn't matter. -Get your tornado but the enemy is better than you in literally every way? Irrelevant. Sit on your tornado until convenient. -Infinite mobility. Literally infinite. -Windwall annihilates any enemy ability in a 270 degree arc and can be cast WELL after enemy cast -Ult is hilariously low cooldown -Ult %armor penetration last for 15 seconds after ult, just in case you were too bad to penetrate the armor in an otherwise reasonable fashion -Takes an item and literally makes it more gold efficient due to stupid passive

At this point, I don't care. Every draft mode I play will have a Yas ban. If I do get a Yas on my team, I'm going to assume he's going to be 0/9/X by ten minutes. And if he's on the enemy team he's going to be 9/0/X by ten minutes.

So here's how it will go, since I know Riot will never meaningfully nerf this abortion. Any game I play where Yas is 3 kills ahead at 15 minutes, I will int. Every game. This is my protest.

45 Comments

Handy Sandy 3 votes

enemy is better than you in literally every way?

Then be useless all game and get flamed by your teammates because you went 0/9 and your enemy knew how to deal with Yasuo. He's not even op anymore.

Incognonymous1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Emper0r Azir,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-27T18:15:05.846+0000)

Then be useless all game and get flamed by your teammates because you went 0/9 and your enemy knew how to deal with Yasuo. He's not even op anymore.

OP =/= not fun to play against

Yasuo is not fun to play against. The least I can do is to take the win away from them. I will deny every Yasuo player I can by feeding intentionally.

No Yasuo will be MVP of their team so long as I am MVP of their team.

Umbra Z2 votes

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OP =/= not fun to play against

Yasuo is not fun to play against. The least I can do is to take the win away from them. I will deny every Yasuo player I can by feeding intentionally.

No Yasuo will be MVP of their team so long as I am MVP of their team.

Wow you're really salty, did you just get rekt by a yas? He has like 0 mobility without a minion wave and if he isn't 1 shotting you which he wont be or you're deserving of the loss, cc=death he is still not a tank and if he is he does negative damage

Incognonymous1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbra Z,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-27T18:23:04.099+0000)

Wow you're really salty, did you just get rekt by a yas? He has like 0 mobility without a minion wave and if he isn't 1 shotting you which he wont be or you're deserving of the loss, cc=death he is still not a tank and if he is he does negative damage

Been getting "rekt" by Yasuo, but worse by failed Riot design and balance paradigms. Everyone has.

Incognonymous1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbra Z,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-27T18:23:04.099+0000)

Wow you're really salty, did you just get rekt by a yas? He has like 0 mobility without a minion wave and if he isn't 1 shotting you which he wont be or you're deserving of the loss, cc=death he is still not a tank and if he is he does negative damage

0 mobility? I guess that explains his 1000 range teleport with ult, that conveniently puts him out of tower range if he ults someone under one?

Also, IN a minion wave, he has literally infinite mobility. Literally infinite.

Literally infinite.

Did you catch that? Literally infinite.

Umbra Z1 votes

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0 mobility? I guess that explains his 1000 range teleport with ult, that conveniently puts him out of tower range if he ults someone under one?

Also, IN a minion wave, he has literally infinite mobility. Literally infinite.

Literally infinite.

Did you catch that? Literally infinite.

There are only 6 minions in a wave, how does that mean infinite..

Incognonymous1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbra Z,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-07-27T18:29:15.639+0000)

There are only 6 minions in a wave, how does that mean infinite..

The on-target cooldown literally goes down to 6.

By the time he's completed his full wave circuit, he can immediately repeat it.

He literally has infinite dash.

Literally.

Kloqdq1 votes

Minions die.

Spicy Rice1 votes

That moment when .6 secs = 6 secs

Incognonymous1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000001,timestamp=2017-07-28T04:10:57.764+0000)

That moment when .6 secs = 6 secs

That's the static cooldown. The on-target cooldown is the limit he can use it on a target twice. If he makes a circuit through a minion wave, the on-target cooldown is down when he reaches the end and he can simply repeat it.

Spicy Rice1 votes

The point at which the ontarget cd is 6 sec, the static cd is .1 secs.

Assuming it are perfectly using e, and there are 6 minions in a wave

He will not be able to instantly repeat dashing through the minions.

Not to mention, the minions are constantly killing each other, along with yas needing to q the minions to get q stacks, along with e damaging said minions

Incognonymous1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=000000000000000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-07-28T13:34:34.019+0000)

The point at which the ontarget cd is 6 sec, the static cd is .1 secs.

Assuming it are perfectly using e, and there are 6 minions in a wave

He will not be able to instantly repeat dashing through the minions.

Not to mention, the minions are constantly killing each other, along with yas needing to q the minions to get q stacks, along with e damaging said minions

The cast is up before the animation is over, and you can't recast until the animation ends.

RainXBlade3 votes

Ｑｕａｌｉｔｙ　Ｙａｓｕｏ　Ｓｈｉｔｐｏｓｔ

Incognonymous1 votes

{quoted}

Ｑｕａｌｉｔｙ　Ｙａｓｕｏ　Ｓｈｉｔｐｏｓｔ

This guy gets it, +1.

Dani El Pezglobo1 votes

This is just perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Sm0L--_k4

RainXBlade1 votes

I will always make this comment when someone makes a shitpost about Yasuo.

Kloqdq2 votes

-Yas has literally the best early game in the shield, and can generate it with no cost to himself, essentially infinite

Loses to most fighters in general. The shield goes down easily and most champions can just knock it out. Not that impressive.

-Throw out Q's whenever possible. It cost no resources, and literally doesn't matter.

There is a cooldown on his Q you know? It's also a skillshot that can be missed. If people don't abuse those two facts they should lose.

-Get your tornado but the enemy is better than you in literally every way? Irrelevant. Sit on your tornado until convenient.

He has 5 seconds to use it and it's fairly difficult to actually land. The only reliable way to hit a knock-up in lane is to dash on them and even then it's just an element you can dodge or ignore. He is dashing towards you for the knock up? Dash towards you, he'll miss 90% of the time.

-Infinite mobility. Literally infinite.

Completely false statement. Just fight him in river and you'll laugh at how worthless he is in there. Not to mention the whole, 8ish seconds of dash time?

-Windwall annihilates any enemy ability in a 270 degree arc and can be cast WELL after enemy cast

Bait out and laugh.

-Ult is hilariously low cooldown

No this is true

-Ult %armor penetration last for 15 seconds after ult, just in case you were too bad to penetrate the armor in an otherwise reasonable fashion

Also true but it only procs on crits now.

--Takes an item and literally makes it more gold efficient due to stupid passive

Fair point.

Any game I play where Yas is 3 kills ahead at 15 minutes, I will int. Every game. This is my protest.

Now you are just being a baby. Yasuo isn't some god champion.

Incognonymous1 votes

Are you agreeing with me... or

It doesn't matter that he's not a god champion. He's toxic. I will meet toxicity with toxicity and ensure that no game I play in will ever be attributable to a Yasuo win ever again.

Kloqdq1 votes

Disagreeing and slightly agreeing. Some of your points are right but the others are all slight issues that can easily be fixed. See a yasuo? Darius Bam. That guy is now your personal punching bag. Most lane bullies just crush him and make him irrelevant.

You really overreacted to the champion. I do agree, he has a lot of toxic design but I don't think his really that bad. The only time his uber cancer is when he builds frozen mallet. Otherwise his only meh.

Incognonymous1 votes

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Disagreeing and slightly agreeing. Some of your points are right but the others are all slight issues that can easily be fixed. See a yasuo? Darius Bam. That guy is now your personal punching bag. Most lane bullies just crush him and make him irrelevant.

You really overreacted to the champion. I do agree, he has a lot of toxic design but I don't think his really that bad. The only time his uber cancer is when he builds frozen mallet. Otherwise his only meh.

Darius may well counter Yasuo, I don't proclaim to know, but how often does Yasuo top vs. mid? And how often does Darius mid vs. top?

Yasuo has an incredibly strong early game, not simply from having more easily accessible passives in the early game, but his ability to make midgame investments twice as efficient.

By the time a top Darius can start to come into contact with a mid Yasuo, it is already too late. Far too late.

Kloqdq1 votes

I honestly haven't see a Yasuo mid in ages. I'd say most mages can just poke him out easily. I played Karma and never lost lane because it's that easy. Syndra can just ignore his winwall. Ori has too much consective poke. Vel'Koz and Lux can poke him. Xerath, Ziggs, Ahri, Karthus, Malzhar, Cass, etc.

Not even mentioning the many assassins that crush him too. Yasuo is pretty trash early to most things. Windwall is strong but it's something you just play around (it's not hard). Punishing him for being aggressive early is super easy on most champions. That's just mid. Then you go top and you got stuff like Riven, Renekton, Kled, Jax, J4, Camille, Panth, etc. Yasuo is far from strong and most champions just fuck him up early and by mid game you'll probably have a lead. He is only decent higher elos for a reason.

Dominick Destine2 votes

Yasuo is indeed faceroll easy and brokenly overpowered.

But now that we all get a ban, he is easily kept out of a game.

Incognonymous2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-07-27T18:31:48.083+0000)

Yasuo is indeed faceroll easy and brokenly overpowered.

But now that we all get a ban, he is easily kept out of a game.

Well said.

Just too many modes without bans.

archerno12 votes

-He has one of worst shields that can be popped with single auto attack -Its a skillshot and can be dodged -Thats why duration got nerfed so hard recently -Its neither infinite nor reliable. It requires minions or other units and can be used on same minion once -At a cost of huge CD -And is most unreliable ulti in game -Its bonus armor penetration only. It doesnt affect base armor -At a cost of reduced damage on crits

Incognonymous1 votes

I'm not even going to read your whole post.

It's literally the best level 1 shield in the game, outside of Jarvan surrounded by enemies, who started W for some reason. It pops, but so fucking what, if he's being attacked it was going down anyway, the duration is irrelevant at level 1, he was attacked by someone else also level 1.

archerno12 votes

{quoted}

I'm not even going to read your whole post.

It's literally the best level 1 shield in the game, outside of Jarvan surrounded by enemies, who started W for some reason. It pops, but so fucking what, if he's being attacked it was going down anyway, the duration is irrelevant at level 1, he was attacked by someone else also level 1.

Well maybe u should read my whole post. So next time u wont go 0:20 with 2 x item 3110

Incognonymous1 votes

{quoted}

Well maybe u should read my whole post. So next time u wont go 0:20 with 2 x item 3110

Perhaps you need to reread the OP and realize I am a man of commitment.

Stars Shaper1 votes

"ermagerd mah eltemete deden't breke wendwell yesue se opppppppp"

Incognonymous1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-07-27T18:40:56.356+0000)

"ermagerd mah eltemete deden't breke wendwell yesue se opppppppp"

I just think it's hilarious when Yasuo essentially spell shields an entire lane against something like Nami ult, even if the collision is literally one pixel. This is well documented.

And it's not just a spell shield, it's a literal move cancel. If Thresh hook or Blitz hook hits someone, and Yas windwall's mid animation, the hooks will literally disappear regardless if they have someone or not. Not have a fail animation and retract, LITERALLY disappear. That's by design, that's not spaghetti code. Hilarious shortcut.

Stars Shaper1 votes

Yeah... and is defenseless against melee, mobility only if inside enemies, he is targettable during ult and dashes, ult isn't enough to kill any1 (unless you are a squishy and got ult under 30% hp and he is fed), he can't build sustain before at least 2 costy items and still doens't block rays-like skills.

Incognonymous1 votes

Quit trying to reason.

An irrational problem requires an irrational response. Yasuo shits on the idea of a power budget, which is precisely what holds back champs like Morde and Skarner who have mechanics so incredibly specific eating up enormous amounts of that budget.

The double standards stop here. The design is bad, so I will do something worse in response.

I will make every Yasuo game as unfun for them as it is for my by virtue of them picking Yasuo.

Zero Drive1 votes

You have a ban but you don't want to use it. If you allow something you hate into the game you have no one to blame but yourself.

Incognonymous1 votes

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You have a ban but you don't want to use it. If you allow something you hate into the game you have no one to blame but yourself.

Playing draft literally adds like 10 minutes to every game, to say nothing if someone dodges when they see their freelo is banned.

Effectively, no, I do not have a ban in a significant part of this game.

Zero Drive1 votes

{quoted}

Playing draft literally adds like 10 minutes to every game, to say nothing if someone dodges when they see their freelo is banned.

Effectively, no, I do not have a ban in a significant part of this game.

If you're only playing blind pick you're supposed to be playing for shits and giggles. If you can't enjoy the game due to one champ, simply quit. Or get banned. Either is bound to happen considering this thread.

Incognonymous1 votes

{quoted}

If you're only playing blind pick you're supposed to be playing for shits and giggles. If you can't enjoy the game due to one champ, simply quit. Or get banned. Either is bound to happen considering this thread.

Why though? Blind normals are legit games.

Also, LOL, bans for something you do in game other than flaming. Cool story, bro.

Zero Drive1 votes

I could link a few accounts that have been perma'd for inting though I would never claim to have been the previous owner of said accounts. I do know for a fact the owner was smart enough to keep his mouth shut and try and play it off as lag or "having a bad game". Still perma'd.

Incognonymous1 votes

{quoted}

I could link a few accounts that have been perma'd for inting though I would never claim to have been the previous owner of said accounts. I do know for a fact the owner was smart enough to keep his mouth shut and try and play it off as lag or "having a bad game". Still perma'd.

Half my friends list should be banned if that were true.

But they're not. Again, because Riot doesn't punish intentionally feeding shitters, only those who speak out against them. Want to know how I know? Because I've been banned for the latter.

Zero Drive1 votes

{quoted}

Riot doesn't punish intentionally feeding shitters

Tell that to "Hammerman".

Shahamut1 votes

I dont know if its fitting or TRULY ironic, but the majority of the player base is like Yasuo's home town: a bunch of unforgiving jerks who won't listen to reason or actually investigate the truth:

Yasuo is "brain dead easy" or:

brainless and hilariously low skillcap

Yet, I see he has, and probably still does, hold the HIGHEST deaths per game, if not number 2 as well as the number 1 or 2 spot for worst kda. This is across ALL elo.

If the claim that his skill floor was low were even remotely true, we would see VERY different numbers, specifically in lower ranked play. What we actually see is that it is the exact opposite.

You can't have it both ways where "hes braindead ez" and "people die cuz they bad" when the stats stay pretty consistent if not get worse when you get into the higher elo.

His winrate is nothing special in any ELO either, and the LCS pretty much never picks him (Ive seen him one time, as a counter pick to Gnar in top, and he wasn't really the game changer in my opinion).

So which is it? Low skill floor or are people just not skilled enough to play him?

Facts people. Facts.

Incognonymous1 votes

{quoted}

I dont know if its fitting or TRULY ironic, but the majority of the player base is like Yasuo's home town: a bunch of unforgiving jerks who won't listen to reason or actually investigate the truth:

Yasuo is "brain dead easy" or:

Yet, I see he has, and probably still does, hold the HIGHEST deaths per game, if not number 2 as well as the number 1 or 2 spot for worst kda. This is across ALL elo.

If the claim that his skill floor was low were even remotely true, we would see VERY different numbers, specifically in lower ranked play. What we actually see is that it is the exact opposite.

You can't have it both ways where "hes braindead ez" and "people die cuz they bad" when the stats stay pretty consistent if not get worse when you get into the higher elo.

His winrate is nothing special in any ELO either, and the LCS pretty much never picks him (Ive seen him one time, as a counter pick to Gnar in top, and he wasn't really the game changer in my opinion).

So which is it? Low skill floor or are people just not skilled enough to play him?

Facts people. Facts.

This is every melee stat check champ ever though

Everyone picks them up wanting to carry and feeds, regardless of actual champ difficulty. Next you're going to be telling me about the nuanced gameplay of right-clicking with Yi, as if every bronzelord Yi main is Cowsep and not actually a feeding piece of shit who brings Yi's average down.

Certain champs are just toxicity magnets. Yasuo is one of them.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Good luck with the inting and have fun with the account ban.

Incognonymous1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord smilla,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-07-28T13:17:12.640+0000)

Good luck with the inting and have fun with the account ban.

Why can't I hold all these Tears?

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Because you only have six item slots.

Incognonymous1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord smilla,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eY8h2Jd1,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2017-07-28T16:34:50.253+0000)

Because you only have six item slots.

If only my trinket slot could hold a tear.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

His title as the "Unforgiven" reflects his ban rate

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