heroes of the storm.

khorney·Apr 22, 2016·5 votes·1,393 views

heroes of the storm is a better game by far people are ot blind to see it. they complain about there elo there in then say heroes is for scrubs and go back to complaining how people are noobs and raging. heroes is by far more team oriented then league, matches last half as long, there is no dead weight in it meaning say your mid is lvl 16 and the adc and supp are still 12...... heroes evrey on egains xp at the same rate, champs have multiple build paths, ranking up in ranked isnt as taxing as league(win 7 matches to make it to 100 then lose then not get promoted and then have to magically try to go back to 100 rinse repeat), map objectives are a thing, ( for those of you who dont understand it would be like killing baron would summon) lastly one person cannot carry in heroes idgaf who you think your good at it doesnt happen in heroes. league 1 misplay you lose game or garen is uber fed adn you cant stop him ......

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NekusenApr 22, 20167 votes

HoTS is inferior in every way to LoL:

no items
no gold
no runes
no masteries
no summoner spells
no individual level
annoying map objectives
getting placed in random maps
way less champions
matches are more uninteresting and takes longer from the point you know a team won, for that team to ending the match.

khorneyApr 23, 20162 votes

yet its funny how all of you complain about how crappy league is and needs balanced and still refuse to switch games. ahh so you like carryijng and like when someone feeds then ? map objectives takes precedent over just pushing liek in this game. champs are linear in this game save for a few. why do you need gold why do you need items why do you need mastery?

Vicarious117Apr 23, 20164 votes

Wow.... copy-pasting the same response to everyone disagreeing with you.... can you even drop any lower then that?..... I think you might be at the bottom of the barrel already kid, I suggest you take a break from the internet, before you hurt yourself.....

khorneyApr 23, 20161 votes

well might as well copy and paste because im giving both of you the same response.

Vicarious117Apr 23, 20161 votes

The thing is we can both read other peoples comments too, so we see both responses, copy pasting the same response just cause we both disagree won't help get your point across.

NekusenApr 23, 20161 votes

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yet its funny how all of you complain about how crappy league is and needs balanced and still refuse to switch games. ahh so you like carryijng and like when someone feeds then ? map objectives takes precedent over just pushing liek in this game. champs are linear in this game save for a few. why do you need gold why do you need items why do you need mastery?

LoL having its issues doesn't mean its not superior to HoTS. We complain about things in lol that can be better so the game improves, but i have way, waaay more complains about HoTS than about lol.

i don't like map objectives, if i wanted to focus on them i wouldn't be playing a game focused on PvP.

HoTS champions and gameplay are worse, because of what i listed above, there is way less customization in HoTS, no runes, no masteries, no items.

I find it an inferior game, but some people might find it more relaxing due to its simplicity, so if you like the game, you can stop posting in lol forums and go play hots.

khorneyApr 23, 20161 votes

yes seeing how you have all your spells from the get go have multple build paths via the talents you can improve upon. why do you need runes and masteries. and no one said you had to go for the objectives, then dont baron or dragon ever again since you hate map objectives

NekusenApr 23, 20161 votes

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yes seeing how you have all your spells from the get go have multple build paths via the talents you can improve upon. why do you need runes and masteries. and no one said you had to go for the objectives, then dont baron or dragon ever again since you hate map objectives

in LoL you chose which spell to grow each time you level, HoTS "talents" don't even depend on the match, the choices are a big no brainer. runes alone offer more customization than it, add summs, masteries, ITEMS, individual level, a lot more champions, not getting a random map, leveling spells, etc. and its not even close to a contest.

yes, in HoTS maps you have to go for the objectives, and in some maps you can't win if you don't get them, or they just offer a waaay bigger advantage than dragons are barons ever can.

khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

what your talking about growing spells is absurd. heroes is like every champ being syndra meaning what to max out first to get the bonus or like kha what should i evovle. thats how all the champs in heroes are , and you dont have to go for the object hence why they have a special class of champs called specialiest there the class that are power house dedicated to split pushing league is about memememememem not team team team team. 5th dragonm does offer a advantage.

NekusenApr 24, 20161 votes

Oh, and i forgot of the abomination that is having horses instead of buying boots and movement items. free mobility in small maps, wow, suck a great idea....

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what your talking about growing spells is absurd. heroes is like every champ being syndra meaning what to max out first to get the bonus

no, it's not like that, the options when you level a skill locks out the other one, it one or the other.

specialiest there the class that are power house dedicated to split pushing league is about memememememem not team team team team. 5th dragonm does offer a advantage.

there isn't actual split pushing in hots (as known in lol), maps are too small for that, and for splitpush you basically have to get another neutral objective that are merc camps.

But as i said before, if you enjoy hots so much and lol so little, why are you here in lol forums? trying to recruit people o what ?

khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

it is the samething because you can take different talents for different things and every one has 2 different ults not just 1 and they upgrade at max lvl if you choose to do it. syndra and kha are the closest thing to how heroes operates. sepcialist do not need merc camps as you have stated. there in that class for a reason becuase they can push with out them.

NekusenApr 24, 20161 votes

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it is the samething because you can take different talents for different things and every one has 2 different ults not just 1 and they upgrade at max lvl if you choose to do it. syndra and kha are the closest thing to how heroes operates.

so if you want that you already have kha and syndra, plus add runes, masteries, skill order, items and summoner spells.

sepcialist do not need merc camps as you have stated. there in that class for a reason becuase they can push with out them.

you have splitpushers in lol as well, and you have enhancers like banner, zz and herald buff.

khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

ohh man zz portal used to be better. scaling off mr and armor to me is better then max hp but they made it for junglers. you dont have split pushers per se just nasus once he gets 500 stacks . syndra and kha skilll order matters the most becuase syndra has her passive and kha has his ult buff.

NekusenApr 24, 20161 votes

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ohh man zz portal used to be better. scaling off mr and armor to me is better then max hp but they made it for junglers. you dont have split pushers per se just nasus once he gets 500 stacks

man really, no offense, , but how can you speak so much when you know so little ? you have tons of split pushers and ZZ rot is for tanks that want to do so.

khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

not really the samething as what im speaking of. how can you speak so much when you know so little as well...... yah sure i can go attack speed j4 and split push fast, ive done that but people frwon upon building champs a different way

NekusenApr 24, 20161 votes

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not really the samething as what im speaking of. how can you speak so much when you know so little as well...... yah sure i can go attack speed j4 and split push fast, ive done that but people frwon upon building champs a different way

how old are you? im not saying that every champion is a good split pusher, im saying that Nasus isn't the only one and item 3512 is a splitpush item.

if you want to splitpush as JarvanIV , don't build attack speed, build item 3512 or item 3068 , though if splitpush is what you want, there are better champions for that.

BeoridasApr 24, 20161 votes

i dont necesserly think thats the reason why league is better. Its different because it doesnt have these things. Thats a design choice rather than lacking elements. I like that game but i dont think its near LoL's level yet.

NekusenApr 24, 20161 votes

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i dont necesserly think thats the reason why league is better. Its different because it doesnt have these things. Thats a design choice rather than lacking elements. I like that game but i dont think its near LoL's level yet.

yes, as i said, its way more simplistic and has less customization, and some people might find that relaxing /more casual. I find the map objectives and random maps to be annoying.

Icestar1186Apr 23, 20164 votes

If you like HotS so much more than LoL, why are you still here?

Mayor StubbsApr 22, 20163 votes

ChargeItDownMidApr 22, 20163 votes

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khorneyApr 22, 20162 votes

lol wow . umm no this game is way less action oriented you basically do nothing for 15 min in league. the points i stated are facts on why heroes is better then league.what makes heroes boring in your opinion

ChargeItDownMidApr 22, 20162 votes

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khorneyApr 23, 20161 votes

league has no strategy, heroes has strategy seeing how that is fact and not my opinion, lets look at the fact of actual map objectives the fact jungle camps will assist you in lane pushing getting the boss (baron basically) pushing as well. i played a game of league yesterday and yes the raging and people saying your lucky blah blah blah, stop trying to 1v5 then there guy or cool you used your ult on the supp gj. stood around watched the farming for 20 min then the adc and or jungle finally bought items. league is not a team game more of a player carry. heroes you cannot solo carry and supps are a huge impact then in compared to league. because the team gains xp from the pushing and the cs. but hey that must mean you like feeding and being lvl 16 while your adc and supp are still 11.

ChargeItDownMidApr 23, 20163 votes

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khorneyApr 23, 20161 votes

at any given time in heroes there is 3 map object that will impact the game you can split push with your specialist champs( class dedicated to split pushing strength) you can get merc camps whcih push cs for you and the actual map objective. you dont have to get the map object but will most likely lose. so yes seeing there is like 7 maps and not just summoners rift and basically do nothign but farm for 20min

ChargeItDownMidApr 23, 20161 votes

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khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

heroes is basivcally leagues 20min mark it by passed the farming and early game in favor for going straight for mid to late game. so just playing 1 map of summoners rift is better then the 8 heroes maps.

Vicarious117Apr 22, 20162 votes

HotS is a dumbed down version of LoL, that is a fact, and yes some people prefer that and how the games are faster and almost entirely map based.

But based on the number of players on each game daily across the world it's quite obvious that most people still prefer LoL over HotS, and that is most likely due to that same fact that HotS is a dumbed down version of LoL.

Which yes is also kind of a dumbed down version of Dota2, but again based on player counts you can in fact be too complex for the majority of MOBA players xP

Also, might want to work on your english before raging on the forums, makes you look a tad ridiculous, if not childish.

khorneyApr 23, 20161 votes

Vicarious117Apr 23, 20161 votes

You seriously complaining about champs being "too linear" in league yet you're trying to talk HotS up? Wtf you smoking? Have you even played HotS yourself?

But keep on making wild assumptions like some elementary school brat trying to get the other kids all flustered. Spouting off shit just cause you THINK it might be true is an awful idea, cause like this case for example you are wrong on several accounts and it only makes you look like an idiot.

Just some advice for the future, since I'm assuming you're going to rage about this again at some point.

I have also been playing Smite instead, since it's on the PS4 now, so yeah keep on making those assumptions kiddo, I'm sure you'll eventually get one right! Just hope you haven't made too much of a fool of yourself before then......

khorneyApr 23, 20161 votes

league is linear for example back in season 3 i was taking nautilous supp and guess what im trolling some how now alll of a sudden its cool to take naut supp, or go take naut mid or take leo mid..... or have your adc and there supp go mid..... and smite is way supperior then league in every aspect, the only reason i havent played the ps4 version is im not starting from scratch because so far my pc account they are not linking. i have every god and many many skins unlocked for all the gods so yah. yah i love playing heroes i play it alot just got tired of all the raging and getting stuck with supp and God forbid you try and have fun as the supp your trolling hence league is linear save for the few champs.

Vicarious117Apr 23, 20161 votes

I still feel like HotS is far more linear then League, but I can understand getting frustrated when people rage about "non-meta" picks. I play a lot of Aatrox and Galio and I'm oft harassed before the even starts for those kinds of picks, just cause they're "off-meta" or "trolly."

But that's what the mute button is for, I mute the morons harassing me and proceed to carry them lol

And the accounts between all Smite versions can in fact be linked, I just think that when you do that you have to wait a patch for it to go through, since the PS4 and XBone are a patch behind the PC version. But I do find it superior in just about every regard, it's also more balanced, every God can be played and there aren't any patch 6.7 - Ekko level broken champs that almost auto win games lol

khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

its not linear becuase a i can spec 1 champ 4 different ways so i dont see what the issue is and i like how its impossible to carry with 1 champ, leagues strategy is hey lets get yas some kills and watch his backpack.and quinn and teemo wreck ekko becuase blind dart blocks a lot of his damage just saying.

Vicarious117Apr 24, 20161 votes

You can build League champs multiple different ways to.... you're supposed to alter builds in fact..... you don't even have builds in HotS, so that argument is quite awful.

And you don't understand much about league if you seriously think that's how every game goes.... I'd suggest getting a better understanding before trying to talk shit about it.

And did you seriously just say Quinn and Teemo, two squishy as hell champs, are good against tank Ekko top lane? You know, the guy dominating the winrate boards and nearly permabanned due to how imbalanced he is? By the time he has half an item neither of them can fight him and he can 100-0 them when ever he pleases.... that's just how those match ups work.

khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

No you can't build league Champs many different ways... So the fact I have 2 different ults for every champ 6 different lvls I can put talents in to spec my build differently is nothing... League you cannot build differently okay so I'll make tank Shack and ap ashe and ap Renekton.....that is how every game goes it's about 1 person carrying not the team. I know how the game works

Vicarious117Apr 25, 20162 votes

Well that's part of your problem then, you for some reason don't understand build diversity..... you obviously don't know how the game works....

And your abilities don't change in HotS, they get different effects based on your choices as you level up, that's hardly diverse.

I mean if your argument against league is that you "must" build the best items for each champ every single time, then you also must admit that in HotS you choose the effects that are just better at that time every time.

That fact is you can do w/e you want, in HotS you can make a few slight differences between games with slightly different effects on the same abilities, and in league you can play AD Renekton or Tank Renekton..... attack speed Vi, Tank Vi, or AD burst Vi..... assassin Rengar, Tank Rengar, or duelist Rengar.... I mean the list goes on, much longer then the list for HotS cause believe it or not league is actually more diverse then at least one other moba, that being HotS.

DREADN0UGHTApr 23, 20161 votes

HotS is a good game, but its not nearly as complex and strategic as LoL.

Each map has a specific map objective both teams are warned about every minute. There is no guessing game when it comes to win conditions.
No items. Like wtf, what is a moba without items, how do you counter an enemy comp if u can't adapt your champion to it.
No deadweight? Everyone on the same level? Wow! That's great! So if 2 members on the team feed, that means I literally suffer aswell as the enemy team is 3 levels ahead? Wow! What a tradeoff! Sign me in!
You can't pick which champ to play AFTER knowing what map you are going on. I watched a couple pro matches, and they literally mention shit like ''This champ is bad on that map because of [Insert valid analyst point here]

khorneyApr 23, 20161 votes

first off you counter by picking certain champs and you counter becuase heroes is more team work based then league and you have this funny thing called talents which is used to counter heroe classes. so what you are complaining about is minute. so its cool for your mid or top to be lvl 16 and the adc and supp being lvl 10 thats cool man. also speaking of supp have a impact in heroes as opposed to this game where it supp do not matter becuase supps cannot win games.

Sniper 0Apr 23, 20161 votes

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"also more balanced, every God can be played and there aren't any patch 6.7 - Ekko level broken champs that almost auto win games lol"

I remember playing smite and trying to play nemesis. She was one of the weakest gods in the game when I started playing her. Smite honestly just has a lot more dead Gods than league has dead champions.

You were never guaranteed a win with ekko, he was just particularly strong. It's more about the items being imbalanced than the champs being imbalanced with league.

League has actually been pretty good about trying to balanced champions recently. Kindred was kinda crazy but they were trying to be really creative with her kit. You try balancing an adc for the jungle... She was still relatively tame.

Ekko and kalista on the other hand have been a bit more problematic. But that's two champions in the last 3 years that have been off the wall broken.

Azir was but he was so gated by his skillcap that you probably didn't see a good azir outside of diamond.

Sure champions are going to be strong or weak on release. The pbe is nice for testing kind of but at the end of the day it just doesn't have the playerbase that the main server has.

khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

zac was the most broken champ afetr his release 10 fold more so then ekko was. why becuase his ult infinietly knocked you up if you were in it. now the dead weight champ is elise why becuase they nerfed her becuase she was 1v1 to easily ....... well people in every moba hate mobility why becuase its stupid. you want broken look up tracer from heroes..... its like ekko but on steroids. or lt morales ...... infinite heals which cost 0 mana.

NekusenApr 24, 20161 votes

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now the dead weight champ is elise why becuase they nerfed her becuase she was 1v1 to easily

Elise is constantly being used in high level play and LCS, you don't know what you are talking about. there are champions that are actually in dire need of tweaks.

khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

then why ohh great one did they nerf her rework nerf rework her.........

NekusenApr 24, 20161 votes

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then why ohh great one did they nerf her rework nerf rework her.........

what ?

khorneyApr 24, 20161 votes

long ago her rappel used to follow you like it should since it is a single target spell , so they nerfed that to be the only single target spell in the game that basically has a max range. then they redid her passive becuase people were going ad then they redid her web throw which made her better then they nerfed the damage on her q becuase as stated by the developers she was killing people to fast........gtfo she is liek the top duelist ion the game

BeldairApr 23, 20161 votes

Every MOBA has something that sets them apart and makes them better suited to each individual.

Hots-quicker games, equal lvl on teams

Dota2- runes in river, wide variety of playstyles, simple meta

Smite- 3rd person, interesting lane set ups, unique build paths

And then there is one i just picked up:

Deadbreed- Small choice of "champs", alter playstyle in middle of match (can go from melee to magic or ranged), low que times.

See, i love each moba i play because they all offer something unique to them.

khorneyApr 23, 20161 votes

smite is a better version of league just in third person and you actually have to try and hit your aa. league is slow paced compared to heroes and more teamwork based then league. league is all about mememememememem not team team team

BeldairApr 23, 20161 votes

Then you aren't playing league right. Cause i have only seen team team team as a Support player.

khorneyApr 23, 20161 votes

yes i love it when the adc wants me to go leo and then doesnt follow up and i love getting my mid and adc 9 kills each and we lose ....... becuase garen solo carried. heroes supps all heal some are better then others but you get the drift