Why does killing Zyra plants disable Spellthief's passive?

Lucky·Jun 8, 2015·78 votes·3,446 views

Why should i be punished for getting rid of them?

41 Comments

CleverExpletiveJun 8, 201529 votes

Because global warming is a serious issue on the rift.

5000000000000000Jun 8, 201527 votes

Wow, stop stealing ADC's CS and learn to support. kappa

Hatless CasualJun 8, 201520 votes

Sona "I'm sorry my lord ADC, I'll just leave those alone so you can die to the damage while you farm minions."

Malicious FuryJun 8, 20151 votes

If ADC is dying to their support's damage alone due to tunnelvision, you've already lost bot lane no matter what you do.

Hatless CasualJun 8, 20152 votes

I know, poking fun at bad ADC's who blame supports for ALL their bad choices.

Hello I am BirdJun 8, 20152 votes

The fact that you had to say that makes me cri item 3070

Hatless CasualJun 9, 20151 votes

If your not the type to place blame on your mistakes, I hold no ill will towards you good sir (or madam).

RedcadaverJun 8, 20151 votes

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"I'm sorry my lord ADC, I'll just leave those alone so you can die to the damage while you farm minions."

But Mah BF sword. You cant expect me to look at my health AND cs!

SolaxoJun 8, 20153 votes

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Wow, stop stealing ADC's CS and learn to support. kappa

Can't you just write "/sarcasm"?

5000000000000000Jun 8, 20152 votes

<sarcasm> Sure, if you want to be proper. </sarcasm>

FadedpfJun 8, 201514 votes

I assume because it counts as CS

Skia AsteriJun 8, 20153 votes

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I assume because it counts as CS

So do wards.

IcyPepperJun 8, 201514 votes

shrugs

Killing the plants give gold, so I guess... it's a bit weird, I admit. Not very fair.

TDubHJun 8, 201510 votes

Because zyra plants will add to your Creep Score, which killing a creep disables spell theif's passive... its in the tool-tip, killing Yorick ghouls will also disable ST... as well as LB clone including wuk clone.

lightdragoon88Jun 8, 20152 votes

This.

It Hertz When IPJun 8, 20155 votes

I believe the question was less an information gap and more a protest.

TDubHJun 8, 20151 votes

I know that it was more of a protest than information gap, however getting free $ without it showing as a creep is a bit silly and then adding a whole subroutine to process it as a creep-score increaser without disabling Spell thief seems a lot of programming to perform for a small QoL

Hello I am BirdJun 8, 20151 votes

Wards?

TDubHJun 9, 20151 votes

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm actually not a bad idea.

P0IS0N IVYJun 8, 20157 votes

You get gold from the plants.

Zyra doesn't need indirect nerfs anyway.

DivewingJun 8, 20157 votes

Cos you are a Spellthief not a fucking gardener

Solidair3Jun 8, 20156 votes

Because everything is coded as a minion, duh

ImHerVoiceJun 8, 20154 votes

because fuck you dont touch the forest rawrglefish

SlushieDeeJun 9, 20151 votes

Ohai Lorax.

VDc0zCqe0wJun 8, 20154 votes

i'll add this to my list of "things i thought people would never ever complain about"

P.S. Zyra is already trash as she is, do you seriously want the 92342th nerf?

SaiannaJun 8, 20153 votes

Zyra isn't so bad...

After buying item 3285 she can really make some nasty things to enemy

manbearswineJun 8, 20153 votes

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Zyra isn't so bad...

As a former zyra main I can confirm.

she is fucking horrible.

SaiannaJun 8, 20153 votes

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As a former zyra main I can confirm.

Mhm. I'm not doing so poorly with her, but it can't be true cause former Zyra main told me she's fucking horrible

manbearswineJun 8, 20151 votes

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Mhm. I'm not doing so poorly with her, but it can't be true cause former Zyra main told me she's fucking horrible

Well,it's silver,I would be stomping everything on zyra(or right about anything for that matter) in if i'd be placed in silver.

VDc0zCqe0wJun 8, 20152 votes

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Zyra isn't so bad...

After buying she can really make some nasty things to enemy

Zyra is bad

it won't stop you from winning games with her, but you can pretty much say that about every champ

i win with her cuz i basically only played her in S4

P0IS0N IVYJun 8, 20151 votes

I dunno about her being trash.....I do just fine with her. She's my main champion in ranked.

DurzakaJun 8, 20153 votes

I mean... The plants give you CS (which cancels spelltheif) But it also gives you gold (thereby compensating for the lost passive).

OverpoweredSoapJun 8, 20151 votes

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I mean... The plants give you CS (which cancels spelltheif) But it also gives you gold (thereby compensating for the lost passive).

Yes, but it does mean you lose your passive for a while, which could possibly mean life or death in an engagement and or trade that goes wrong.

DurzakaJun 8, 20151 votes

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Yes, but it does mean you lose your passive for a while, which could possibly mean life or death in an engagement and or trade that goes wrong.

Im sorry, but the amount of times 10-30 damage is the difference between life or death is too small to consider that a possibility.

People dont take spellthief because it gives extra damage.

Z StatisticJun 8, 20151 votes

Spellthief gives +1 gp10 than coin if you land your harass exactly every 30 seconds whereas coin you just have to be there. Coin also gives the same mana regen as Spellthief. In all likelihood, you will get less than 7 gp10 because you will have to kill the other laner and not be able to hit a turret, or defend an objective. You still gain gold just being in lane with coin.

Not to mention that Shurima > Frost Queen.

The reason you get Spellthief is because you want the AP and extra damage to go offensive and allin.

TrídentJun 8, 20153 votes

You see, Zyra's plants are an endangered species. Killing them would greatly hurt the environment and cause global warming. The jungle would fall apart, thus ruining the Rift. To make sure all the jungle camps stay and do not die, RIOT GameWarden_ has issued a punishment for killing Zyra's plants. He wishes to make them harsher, but other Rioters currently oppose.

That may change.

Shroom JunkieJun 8, 20151 votes

I assume you don't get the cash?

Hatless CasualJun 8, 20151 votes

If you kill it you do, but you don't get the bonus gold for AAing or using an ability.

Puri Puri TaricJun 8, 20151 votes

if u attack an minion a trap or a plant it gets a reset it also resets if u kill jungle monsters so totally reasonable.

CansemaJun 8, 20151 votes

they count as CS.. so .. in mid lane when a champion kills it it procs the mana regen of the item 1056 and that puts zyra behind in a sustain fight sometimes.. i have had junglers comment on how behind my cs was verses the other mid because of this so they basically consider me dead weight..

also .. you get you 5g.. just be happy with that... maybe you should have given the cs to the ADC .. like a good support?

SlushieDeeJun 8, 20151 votes

Yes, maybe I should have let my adc get his ass blown off by some venus flytrap lookin shit so I don't deprive him of something that is worth A QUARTER OF A MELEE CREEP and so I don't lose out on 5 or 10 gold for BEING A GOOD SUPPORT AND POKING THE ENEMY BOTLANE.

Hey.

Don't blame me because you died to Zyra. You wanted the cs from her plants. YOU wanted the 5 gold.

Potential 5 gold for you and spellthief's stacks for me. Worth bitch.