"Just dodge Blitzcrank's hook and he's usless xD"
Sorry i missed the part where im able to dodge skillshots for the other 4 people on my team
Sorry i missed the part where im able to dodge skillshots for the other 4 people on my team
Just pink ward his hook.
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I win more games with Blitzcrank on the team. You're fucked if he hooks you, E's you, and then R's you among the others that will be wrecking you.
Blitz>Thresh any day, any universe.
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I win more games with Blitzcrank on the team. You're fucked if he hooks you, E's you, and then R's you among the others that will be wrecking you.
Blitz>Thresh any day, any universe.
No. Blitz has to land a hook before he can dump all his stuff onto you.
Thresh doesn't even need to land his hook to successfully initiate. And when he does need to, he doesn't even need to land on enemy champs (because minions) to utterly destroy enemy teams.
No way Thresh is worse than Blitz.
how can thresh engage without his q? if the enemy lets you go walk up to you and melee mode e you?
"easy"
In lane its easy to engage with E first too. Thresh has one of the best offensive and one of the best defensive tools a support could ever want, how is he worse than Blitz lol?
But Blitzcrank can use those items too.
If Thresh can dump the rest of his kit thanks to those items, why can't Blitzcrank?
Because my point was that Thresh can engage with his E (which has 400 range, Blitz Q has a bit more than 900) using these items, Blitz cant. Also Blitz cant shield his ally and give him max 1500 range mobility kek.
so blitz cant walk up to someone and knock them up? and he cant defend his adc from the enemy with his rather powerful aoe silence?
No and... no. I wouldnt call a basically non existent 0.5 second silence strong either.
With how much damage it does I would lol. It has one of the highest base damages in the game with a 1.0 ap ratio. Not to mention it's very strong when chained with his knock up.
There's a reason blitzcrank has one of the highest win rates in solo q.
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Sweet 60-200 shield you got there. And you don't need the mobility if your enemy is hooked over to you instantly.
tell me, have you never seen a blitzcrank walk up to someone, knock them up, and then pull them when theyre a tiny distance away?
also, how exactly is thresh supposed to initiate without his hook? he has no other way of getting in other than straight up walking to them.
I think he's talking about his own OPINION and preference, rather than saying Thresh is useless.
Thresh's hook has a half second wind-up time and Blitz's hook is instant. Also Thresh hook doesn't pull you over instantly, it pulls you half the distance over the stun duration.
i literally just played a 
vs

He didn't land ONE hook on me. Making him all but useless. He hooked
a few times who would just toss me a latern to come kill 
There's also a dozen champs you never ever ever ever ever want to hook into your team like
etc. With
if you accidentally hook one of those, it's not the end of the world. Just dont engage on the hook. But if you hook them with
? Good luck getting out of that one alive.
also has a way better ult, more utility, is more tanky, and is just an all around more balanced pick.
Actually a good Blitz can screw over a Galio. Why? Because you can simply queue up his on-hit knock up to interrupt his aoe taunt channel if he manages to use it before the silence. If not, the Galio dies anyways because 5 campions probably nuking/CCing him.
You dodged skillshots as Kalista? Wow, you deseve a medal.
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is more tanky
Nope. Thresh has worse base defensive stats (health, armor, magic resist, health regen), and Blitzcrank's passive makes him even tankier.
Jinx dodged pretty much all of thresh's hooks too, it wasn't about who i was playing. He has lower base stats but once it hits mid-late game his passive along with whatever armor he's built will make him pretty tanky for a support and let him frontline well. I just think he's more versatile, i'm not saying blitz isn't also an awesome support.
In plat or below i'd probly take blitz over thresh, just because people aren't as cautious.
Doesn't matter what elo. They still don't grab the lantern. :/
And does a third of your health while building full tank. Q has 300 base damage. E deals 458 with Iceborn Gauntlet. Ult is 550 damage + the 300 damage lightning bolts AND the silence AND big AOE AND 30 seconds cooldown. Also, both have 100% AP ratios. Also, he gains a giant ass shield preventing all damage.
Shields in general are annoying with no counter. Oh, you finally got Tahm Kench to 100 HP? Now he has a 1000 shield you have to deal with. Grevious Wounds, nothing. True damage, nothing. BotRK, nothing.
There's also the fact that a good Blitz, after missing one or two hooks, will just walk up to you, smack you up into the air and silence you, and THEN drag you screaming back when you flash away.
picked up blitz recently and Ive been stomping, 
and his W means he doesnt even need to hook you, he runs faster than 
picked up blitz recently and Ive been stomping,
and his W means he doesnt even need to hook you, he runs faster than
EXACTLY
Blitz is the one champion i wouldnt care at all if he was removed or reworked into a completely new champion. He is THE largest source of frustration in bot lane for me. That champion alone forces me to dodge or just give up at champ select. If leaving games CoD style was a thing on league i would never face a blitz.
I would pay a monthly fee if i could just to never have to play against him.
Or that part where you have to do it literally the entire game.
And the fact you can't really dodge it until you get tier 1 boots.
And the fact you can't really dodge it until you get tier 1 boots.
Hide behind minions before you get 325 gold, it's not really all that much you know.
Blitz is a terror in low elo because you can't trust your team to not get hooked by him at a crucial moment. If you get to a rank where the carries aren't just absolute potatoes he really struggles to be relevant. The few times ive seen him in diamond he makes some crazy roam plays earlygame and then doesn't contribute much beyond that because the carries know to stay the hell away from him
They also forget that tanks are the last champs on earth he'd want to hook, as its free initiation. You hook a tank and either have the entire team blow all of their cooldowns on him to erase him which leaves them vulnerable, or they hook the tank and leave him be for him to bring hurt to their squishies the blitz so graciously taxi'd him to.
Pretty much. I recently won a 4v5 by baiting him into doing exactly that when i was full build naut. Although if you're too deep into elo hell your team will just stand around confused as you die... and then engage 20 seconds later 4v5.
That's exactly the demographic bitching about blitz though, the ones stuck in elo hell. Anybody decent at the game who doesn't get overwhelmed by having to perform their champion's base functions AND play differently against their lane opponents have no problems with him. They can't come to terms with the fact that his counterplay is clear as day and they can't manage to impliment it, so they cry for nerfs and deletion.
What you have to do is stand in the way and block for you teammate, AND THEN DODGE! #mindgames
"Just dodge Blitzcrank's hook."
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How about his Aoe silence, with huge damage, even building full support?
Dat 0.5 second silence so OP, he can block one frantic mouse click from registering. Its an interrupt, Fiddle's dark wind is a silence, people need to stop comparing the two.
The only time your team can dodge a skillshot is when you're playing Lux. #BronzeFacts
Lol I hate when I see people say that, it's so presumptuous of the Blitz player's skill.
It says more about the plaintiff's skill than the blitz. Being caught out of position will get anyone killed by any champion in the game, people cry about blitzcrank because their fuckups are the sole source of blitz's success.
Blitz can miss all hooks whole game or just chill in general. But one hook under baron/dragon and he won you a game.
Or lose a game, just have a tank eat it, or are people afraid to play tanks since Vayne exists? As difficult as it may seem to dodge his hooks, having a tank purposefully eat them is unbelievably easy. Blitz hooks a tank and he's initiated for them, now his team is forced to blow everything on the tank to kill him, or ignore it whist it goes to town on their squishies. If your team is comprised on eggplants who can't follow up then thats their fault, not blitz's.
In late-to mid game, it doesent matter if blitz hooks tank cause if your team is grouped, even ulted alistar will just dissapear, or at least be crippled hard enough so fight turns into 5v4.