Can we please just nerf yasuo into the ground?

Dasdi96·Feb 23, 2019·125 votes·22,217 views

I don't care if he is strong or weak, I just am sick of seeing him in every fucking blind pick game, whether he wins or loses. Whenever he is in the game, he warps the entire game around himself and removes the agency from his opponents. "Bullshit aside Yasuo is a broken champion. People say he's a high skillcap champion, but the secret with Yasuo is knowing how to control yourself while playing such a overpowered champion. Yasuo's weakness comes from the fact that he is too strong. His laning phase is so strong that after the laning phase people do not know how to keep calm and throw the game." -Apdo/Dopa

149 Comments

SyrileFeb 23, 201940 votes

Funny thing... Yasuo is clearly a serious problem with League at all levels. He is either overwhelming or useless in pro play. He is the absolute least fun champion in the game for most people to play against. Yet, unlike Azir, Ryze, Galio, and the mages that actually require skill or tactical knowledge of the game (or both for Ryze), he will never be gutted and left in a ditch to be ignored for all time. Instead, he will be allowed to alter the entire game. One champion with over a 90% pick/ban is literally a game-warping champion. And no, not warping a specific game. I mean warping League of Legends itself. Out of over 140 champions no single champion should even be close to 90% pick/ban. And he has consistently been over 40% for at least 18 months but for weeks now has been over 75% and is now at over 90%.

AseraanFeb 23, 20192 votes

HMMMMM why are u lisitng Rise and Galio there? Azir is sure but the other 2 ?????

SyrileFeb 28, 20191 votes

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HMMMMM why are u lisitng Rise and Galio there? Azir is sure but the other 2 ?????

Ryze is both mechanically difficult and requires a lot of game knowledge, tactics, etc. Galio does not require the game knowledge but before the weird AP boost thingy they went after, he was entirely team-based, requiring a lot of tactical knowledge. Anyone on that end is targeted by nerfs while buffing twitch-mechanical champions and flashy play champions.

AR URFFeb 24, 20193 votes

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Funny thing... Yasuo is clearly a serious problem with League at all levels. He is either overwhelming or useless in pro play. He is the absolute least fun champion in the game for most people to play against. Yet, unlike Azir, Ryze, Galio, and the mages that actually require skill or tactical knowledge of the game (or both for Ryze), he will never be gutted and left in a ditch to be ignored for all time. Instead, he will be allowed to alter the entire game. One champion with over a 90% pick/ban is literally a game-warping champion. And no, not warping a specific game. I mean warping League of Legends itself. Out of over 140 champions no single champion should even be close to 90% pick/ban. And he has consistently been over 40% for at least 18 months but for weeks now has been over 75% and is now at over 90%.

Skill and tactical knowledge? Look at a pro yasuo vs a noob yasuo. BIG BIG BIG difference. Now look at a pro veigar vs a noob veigar. They're basically the same. quit your crying.

3TWarriorFeb 24, 20193 votes

while it is true that there's a huge difference between a good yasuo and a new player, at the time, I got the same impression from both him and vayne ( season 4 or 5 ) that while they can "APPEAR" to be weak if you don't know what you're doing, if you learn how to play them, there is no situation that they are not prepared for unless you have lost EVERYTHING and get caught by someone using that brief window to their advantage

I hated both because it was a lot of button pressing in short intervals and doing an excessive amount compared to other characters, but again, they have a tool for everything

AR URFFeb 24, 20192 votes

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while it is true that there's a huge difference between a good yasuo and a new player, at the time, I got the same impression from both him and vayne ( season 4 or 5 ) that while they can "APPEAR" to be weak if you don't know what you're doing, if you learn how to play them, there is no situation that they are not prepared for unless you have lost EVERYTHING and get caught by someone using that brief window to their advantage

I hated both because it was a lot of button pressing in short intervals and doing an excessive amount compared to other characters, but again, they have a tool for everything

Yasuo is very situational. If you're not in lane, then he will have a harder time and need CC for his ult. Vayne still is late game no matter what people tell you.

3TWarriorFeb 24, 20194 votes

windwall makes him an excellent counter-engage or defensive ace in the hole during team fights;

he has as many dashes as there are enemies within range ;

his crowd control can be targeted if he combines it with his dash and even if he doesn't, he is at close enough range to rarely miss it ;

he has a defensive steroid that negates the majority of any damage he receives for 1 second (it does not work the same as a standard shield but instead reduces all incoming damage by the shield's maximum because the shield value does not decrease) and this steroid can be refreshed instantly by using his ultimate

his ultimate reduces bonus armor by 50% which if he combines it with armor pen, reduces bonus armor to about one third of its effective value while also reducing their base armor due to armor pen

let's say they have 100 base armor and 200 bonus armor, with these two factors combined, that's only about 131 armor out of 300 total

his ultimate allows him to extend any knockup or displacement crowd control while suppressing them, making him easily able to combo attack with the large number of knockups and displacement now in the game

his Q scales with attack speed instead of cooldown reduction, making it very stat efficient early game

#and to top it all off, he's a hyper carry with the earliest late-game powerspike in the game...

TSM PolarbearFeb 24, 20192 votes

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windwall makes him an excellent counter-engage or defensive ace in the hole during team fights;

he has as many dashes as there are enemies within range ;

his crowd control can be targeted if he combines it with his dash and even if he doesn't, he is at close enough range to rarely miss it ;

he has a defensive steroid that negates the majority of any damage he receives for 1 second (it does not work the same as a standard shield but instead reduces all incoming damage by the shield's maximum because the shield value does not decrease) and this steroid can be refreshed instantly by using his ultimate

his ultimate reduces bonus armor by 50% which if he combines it with armor pen, reduces bonus armor to about one third of its effective value while also reducing their base armor due to armor pen

let's say they have 100 base armor and 200 bonus armor, with these two factors combined, that's only about 131 armor out of 300 total

his ultimate allows him to extend any knockup or displacement crowd control while suppressing them, making him easily able to combo attack with the large number of knockups and displacement now in the game

his Q scales with attack speed instead of cooldown reduction, making it very stat efficient early game

#and to top it all off, he's a hyper carry with the earliest late-game powerspike in the game...

That's just way to much in a single kit...

IPromiseTomorrowFeb 24, 20191 votes

Yasuo is a problem?

Not in Challenger XD

SyrileFeb 28, 20193 votes

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is a problem?

Not in Challenger XD

Stats at the time of posting this said otherwise.

IPromiseTomorrowFeb 28, 20191 votes

And then Nerfs prove me right uwu

SyrileMar 1, 20192 votes

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And then Nerfs prove me right uwu

Not even close. At the time of posting, you were not right. Which is when you commented.

Light BurnerFeb 24, 20191 votes

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Funny thing... Yasuo is clearly a serious problem with League at all levels. He is either overwhelming or useless in pro play. He is the absolute least fun champion in the game for most people to play against. Yet, unlike Azir, Ryze, Galio, and the mages that actually require skill or tactical knowledge of the game (or both for Ryze), he will never be gutted and left in a ditch to be ignored for all time. Instead, he will be allowed to alter the entire game. One champion with over a 90% pick/ban is literally a game-warping champion. And no, not warping a specific game. I mean warping League of Legends itself. Out of over 140 champions no single champion should even be close to 90% pick/ban. And he has consistently been over 40% for at least 18 months but for weeks now has been over 75% and is now at over 90%.

Funny thing... Every Yasuo i play against ends up feeding because instead of complaining and wanting him to be gutted and not playable i learned to play against him and i just dumpster them every time. Now Im not saying Im a god at league im saying yasuo isnt as strong as the iron - low gold players believe he is and thats why he fails when you reach pro play and strives in low elo. And since majority of the playerbase makes up that low elo thats why hes banned 90% of the time. Btw check u.gg again his ban rate is around 60% unless im missing something which id gladly accept if you can show it.

SyrileFeb 28, 20191 votes

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Funny thing... Every Yasuo i play against ends up feeding because instead of complaining and wanting him to be gutted and not playable i learned to play against him and i just dumpster them every time. Now Im not saying Im a god at league im saying yasuo isnt as strong as the iron - low gold players believe he is and thats why he fails when you reach pro play and strives in low elo. And since majority of the playerbase makes up that low elo thats why hes banned 90% of the time. Btw check u.gg again his ban rate is around 60% unless im missing something which id gladly accept if you can show it.

I crush him too. Over and over again. That does not change the fact that, as of the time of posting, his ban rate was over 72% on LolAlytics and play rate was 18%.

Light BurnerFeb 28, 20191 votes

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I crush him too. Over and over again. That does not change the fact that, as of the time of posting, his ban rate was over 72% on LolAlytics and play rate was 18%.

So you're saying lets nerf a champion to the ground because people dont like playing against him and people like playing him??? I dont like playing against heimer and teemo does that mean they should be nerfed into the ground??

SyrileMar 1, 20194 votes

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So you're saying lets nerf a champion to the ground because people dont like playing against him and people like playing him??? I dont like playing against heimer and teemo does that mean they should be nerfed into the ground??

When a champion has influence over 90% of all games played despite being 1 out of over 140 champions, yes, I am saying they need to fix it. No champion should influence a game that much. That is a serious problem. When over half, even, of the players that play the game absolutely hate playing one champion so much that they will spend their ban on that champion more often than they will the current OP champion, that says a lot.

In fact, Riot has the mentality of reworking "problem" champions that they cannot balance. They do it over and over and over again. Or champions that just make the game unfun for others. Those champions have like a 5% pick/ban rate? or 10% at most? Yet, they are targeted for reworks or being nerfed into the ground. Yasuo, Zed, and a few others? Not even close. They are not only allowed to run roughshod over everyone but half the time receive direct or indirect buffs. So much so that if Yasuo, for example, has a winrate under 50%, they hot-fix buff him like last year, when we have champions who average less than a 40% win rate.

It is beyond bias, it is a system meant to frustrate a huge part of the player base.

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 23, 201924 votes

And this is why Riot doesn't listen to the boards for balance.

Because "nerf yasuo into the ground" isn't balance.

It's bias.

AnateraFeb 23, 20194 votes

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And this is why Riot doesn't listen to the boards for balance.

Because "nerf yasuo into the ground" isn't balance.

It's bias.

Wow, how insightful.

LTK KoRoFeb 23, 20196 votes

he just pointed the truth about threads about yas and zed

how he's supposed to give any insight in threads where players cry that yasuo is op because he crits and dashes?

AnateraFeb 23, 20193 votes

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he just pointed the truth about threads about yas and zed

how he's supposed to give any insight in threads where players cry that yasuo is op because he crits and dashes?

Wrong. He used this one thread as a blanket example for every thread, even though there are plenty that aren't biased. It's not insightful. I don't give a shit about what insight he has about yas in this thread, because he's clearly shown he doesn't care.

HopeStartsWithUFeb 23, 20193 votes

Not of every thread, but the majority. Like it or not, gameplay boards are made of "gut yasuo, zed, riven, vayne and buff mages" and the occasional mordekaiser post. People are DONE trying to "discuss" with others about said champions. And with people I mean Riot, Mods and people who actually understand gamedesign and statistics.

In short, his comment just explained the boards in a nutshell.

TSM PolarbearFeb 23, 20192 votes

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Not of every thread, but the majority. Like it or not, gameplay boards are made of "gut yasuo, zed, riven, vayne and buff mages" and the occasional mordekaiser post. People are DONE trying to "discuss" with others about said champions. And with people I mean Riot, Mods and people who actually understand game design and statistics.

In short, his comment just explained the boards in a nutshell.

Riot understands game design but riots also understands that casuals are the majority and pay money,

So if the competitive aspect of the game needs to be sacrificed for little jimmy to one trick yasuo and buy all his skins then riot will not touch yasuo to keep jimmy happy till the next event when yasuo has another skin coming out or a chroma that's why they will not rework him because if they do jimmy will leave with his cash and go play a different game because he isn't playing league to get better and doesn't want to play or learn another champion.

Money Talks, A player who cares about the game doesn't care about yasuo they care about the competitive aspect of the game and keeping it at a healthy state for people who have the drive of competition and want ALL champions to be seen and are willing to play all roles and learn the entirety of league not just yasuo only or riven only because they want to be special and treated differently.

This isn't just happening in league but also with companies such as Blizzard,EA,Activision Games are becoming more like a business cash grab then actually a company making a game for gamers by actual gamers. The priority if gearing towards money more then it ever has been and the only way it stops if through players speaking up.

HopeStartsWithUFeb 23, 20193 votes

Point is not that this game didn't turn into a cash grab for Riot. The actual point of the previous post is that the community on these boards are ... a little bit special. They complain about everything and anything and not in a nice way.

When they want a champ nerfed they state the most broken things (imagine someone saying ori so broken her ult + w can delete entire teams) only because some champs winrate spiked to 54% after big changes. Yasuo got nerfed after a patch or two because he was too strong. This is pretty normal because Yasuo is banned most of the games anyway.

Just because someone like you doesn't like to play against champs like Yasuo and Riven doesn't mean these champs are completely broken and unhealthy for the game. There are countless champs like them and yet people refuse to believe that these champs are balanced most of the time. Yasuo and Riven both see rarely competitive play. Yasuo barely goes above the 50% winrate mark just like Riven and when they do Riot nerfs them. Rivens high winrate is under the radar and they plan to nerf her. I stomp every Yasuo in lane and just don't want my teammates to play him simply because the champ is too hard for the majority of this game.

Someone who cares about the game wouldn't say "gut this champion", someone who cares about the game would make suggestions without ruining a champion for its fanbase. Now imagine someone saying "delete Mordekaiser he is broken and busted" on these boards. This guy would be simply downvoted for such a stupid post but do it with a champ that many people like to play you get flooded by upvotes.

Sorry but at this point denying it is straight up lying: The boards mentality is mostly bad and sad to watch. If Riots money would sit on Yasuos fanbase they would spam Yasuo skins just like they throw an Ahri skin almost every year. Riven barely gets anything new too unlike Ezreal and Ahri who undoubtly have less players than other champs.

Two other examples to why Riot ACTUALLY listens to their playerbase are Rengars rework revert and LBs revert, yet these champs don't get much love nor are they insanely OP. They are fun to play but annoying as fuck to play against.

AnateraFeb 24, 20191 votes

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Not of every thread, but the majority. Like it or not, gameplay boards are made of "gut yasuo, zed, riven, vayne and buff mages" and the occasional mordekaiser post. People are DONE trying to "discuss" with others about said champions. And with people I mean Riot, Mods and people who actually understand gamedesign and statistics.

In short, his comment just explained the boards in a nutshell.

His comment was horrendously ignorant because it explained how Riot ignores good ideas just so they can get back at the bad ones, conveniently ignoring the fact that the internet has been this way for decades and they're the dumb ones for not having figured that out about people online yet. It's petty, childish and incredibly stupid.

HopeStartsWithUFeb 24, 20191 votes

Thinking this place right here offers more good ideas than bad ones is horrendously ignorant. This guy just brought up a "Quote" from 2 years ago. Not even put a source on it.

People here LITERALLY downvote and flame you because you ask for a video footage of a tank melting in "2 seconds" but sure people here only have good ideas.

Fact is, only hot garbage make it to the front page and with the spam on this boards good ideas just vanish. Riot doesn't chime into Yasuo, Riven, Zed posts because they are mostly hot garbage. Stats that favour their bias and are out of context, a bit of hatred towards Riot and boom you got your average boards post. And if you doubt this just write "yasuo" into the search function and count the amount of posts that pretty much sum up the same shit with 0 logic.

AnateraFeb 24, 20191 votes

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Thinking this place right here offers more good ideas than bad ones is horrendously ignorant. This guy just brought up a "Quote" from 2 years ago. Not even put a source on it.

People here LITERALLY downvote and flame you because you ask for a video footage of a tank melting in "2 seconds" but sure people here only have good ideas.

Fact is, only hot garbage make it to the front page and with the spam on this boards good ideas just vanish. Riot doesn't chime into Yasuo, Riven, Zed posts because they are mostly hot garbage. Stats that favour their bias and are out of context, a bit of hatred towards Riot and boom you got your average boards post. And if you doubt this just write "yasuo" into the search function and count the amount of posts that pretty much sum up the same shit with 0 logic.

I never said there were more good ideas than bad, but thanks for making that assumption on my behalf. Maybe you could buy a dog on my behalf? or a car on my behalf?

HopeStartsWithUFeb 24, 20191 votes

And yet here you are defending the boards for it's insanely good content. Riot invited a fellow boards user for his passion for Mordekaiser, looks like they don't ignore everything do they?

And thank you for completely ignoring everything else I said. I guess it's because you rather search something to be triggered about instead of trying to discuss something, after all we are disagreeing and everyone who doesn't support "my opinion" (here it's your opinion) is wrong.

Boards are a joke. You proved my point. Thanks for reading, or actually not reading and focusing on the very first sentence of my text. Downvote and move on, your sarcasm doesn't help anything and anyone other then wasting your time and mine (and the Rioters who reads these posts and shake their heads).

AnateraFeb 24, 20191 votes

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And yet here you are defending the boards for it's insanely good content. Riot invited a fellow boards user for his passion for Mordekaiser, looks like they don't ignore everything do they?

And thank you for completely ignoring everything else I said. I guess it's because you rather search something to be triggered about instead of trying to discuss something, after all we are disagreeing and everyone who doesn't support "my opinion" (here it's your opinion) is wrong.

Boards are a joke. You proved my point. Thanks for reading, or actually not reading and focusing on the very first sentence of my text. Downvote and move on, your sarcasm doesn't help anything and anyone other then wasting your time and mine (and the Rioters who reads these posts and shake their heads).

Oh, so because I defend one, it means I defend all of them? You are hilariously arrogant. Literally exactly what I just said in that last post. Reading comprehension much? That post wasn't that long.

HopeStartsWithUFeb 24, 20191 votes

So you think it is completely okay that the majority of the boards is a waste of time and Rioters should actively waste their time to read hundreds of posts that contain the same context over and over with no logic behind it, just to find one gem among them all? I don't see why anyone at Riot should waste their time that much. When they see a good post they usually react. Meddler is doing his best to answer many people on his gameplay posts but it's not worth it to chime in to see same bad constructed post every other day.

Also, calling me arrogant for what exactly? "they're the dumb ones for not having figured that out about people online yet. It's petty, childish and incredibly stupid." Do I need to say more? Get a grip of yourself buddy. You are the arrogant one and you feel the urge to show your superiority by calling other people: Dumb, childish, extremely stupid and arrogant.

Also thanks for your childish answer: "Oh, so because I defend one, it means I defend all of them?", sad that you can't bring another argument other than "oh there are also some good posts among those 100s of bs", yeah keep digging them out because a Rioter has enough time on his watch, right?

It also seems like you struggle a lot here because you can only answer one sentence at a time. If you gonna pick another sentence and answer only that sentence then please do me the favour and do not. Just downvote and keep that spare breath to insult other people thanks.

AnateraFeb 24, 20191 votes

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So you think it is completely okay that the majority of the boards is a waste of time and Rioters should actively waste their time to read hundreds of posts that contain the same context over and over with no logic behind it, just to find one gem among them all? I don't see why anyone at Riot should waste their time that much. When they see a good post they usually react. Meddler is doing his best to answer many people on his gameplay posts but it's not worth it to chime in to see same bad constructed post every other day.

Also, calling me arrogant for what exactly? "they're the dumb ones for not having figured that out about people online yet. It's petty, childish and incredibly stupid." Do I need to say more? Get a grip of yourself buddy. You are the arrogant one and you feel the urge to show your superiority by calling other people: Dumb, childish, extremely stupid and arrogant.

Also thanks for your childish answer: "Oh, so because I defend one, it means I defend all of them?", sad that you can't bring another argument other than "oh there are also some good posts among those 100s of bs", yeah keep digging them out because a Rioter has enough time on his watch, right?

It also seems like you struggle a lot here because you can only answer one sentence at a time. If you gonna pick another sentence and answer only that sentence then please do me the favour and do not. Just downvote and keep that spare breath to insult other people thanks.

Who said anything about it being OK for Riot to waste their time? Stop making assumptions. It's embarassing.

HopeStartsWithUFeb 24, 20191 votes

I said. Can't you read? You say it's stupid to not use the boards as a developer and I say it's time waste. You pretty much described yourself with your unnecessary insults in your previous comment.

Dope SoloFeb 23, 20191 votes

To be fair, Riot is too busy running the game into the ground to do anything about balancing it.

TSM PolarbearFeb 23, 20191 votes

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To be fair, Riot is too busy running the game into the ground to do anything about balancing it.

Ye i agree, A big issue is releasing champions that do what other champions do and more and not just evolving existing champions we the player base already have loved and enjoyed for years liked isn't Zoe just what mid nidalee was supposed to be ranged poke based on distance they could have done something cool like bring back mid nidalee and also keep her viable in the jungle and force players to decide with a build for whatever lane.

3TWarriorFeb 24, 20192 votes

well, one of the big things that they should do by adding characters is instead focus on who they are as a character and how they fit into the game. Like you intended, basing something on "bigger, badder and better" than previous additions is bound to have problems

for example, I love trading card games and even gacha systems, but when it comes down to it, it's rigged like crazy.

for example, let's look at Pokemon TCG, during its older runs, it used to be a luxury to have health over 100 and 120 was a rare maximum to this value except in like one instance. Now some pokemon have OVER DOUBLE THIS VALUE with others trailing close to that amount.

naturally, it all comes down to, "either you can completely shut this down or there is nothing you can do"

DOUBLE TAPPED EFeb 23, 201918 votes

Yes please! [katarina-love]

The EcdysiastFeb 23, 201910 votes

Protip: If there's a champion you don't like to see, stop playing blind pick.

Ironically blind is the only way you can guarantee you'll see them.

Bob the ToastrFeb 23, 20194 votes

I don't want to have to base my ban off of a single champion every goddamn ban phase.

If I'm adc, I want to ban lucian or vayne. If I'm support I want to ban morg or thresh. If I'm jg I want to ban xin zhao or graves.
If I'm top I want to ban vayne or darius.

I don't want to have to ban Yasuo every single game just so I don't have to play against that cancer.

TSM PolarbearFeb 23, 20198 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eFbwy0oA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-23T04:04:02.888+0000)

Protip: If there's a champion you don't like to see, stop playing blind pick.

Ironically blind is the only way you can guarantee you'll see them.

Protip:Yasuo is still a problem..

Ironically Banning him isn't a permanent solution to an ongoing problem.....

TSM PolarbearFeb 23, 201910 votes

Yasuo has been buffed and nerfed since his existence so its obvious he is just a poorly designed champion and NEEDS a rework its just the fact that riot is hesitant on doing so because he is a popular champion and most likely makes them tons of cash with skins and they dont wanna fuck it up...or tamper with it.

His ban rate is just proof enough that the majority of the player base has a bad experience with this particular champion in their games and the players base has said we would rather play the version of league without yasuo in it and that basically says yasuo was a mistake by riot.

Design flaws appear if the champion is either really useless or really ridiculous seems like yasuo has no middle ground with numbers and there is no sweet spot to keep him in a decent state that's good for his opponents and yasuo players the kit is an issue now riot can just rework one ability and even keep the majority of his kit but something needs to be done to him we can all agree on that i hope.

TheRossJanitorFeb 24, 20193 votes

Coming into this discussion as a Yasuo main. Over the past few weeks, I’ve gained a hatred towards this champion. He needs a rework. Yasuo in League is like Bayonetta in Smash. They’re not inherently overpowered, but they’re playing completely different games. It’s frustrating playing with and playing against him.

CPU LyricaFeb 24, 20192 votes

Glad to see the Yasuo-metric (i forget the real name) is working as intended.

k4rm4ffsFeb 23, 20191 votes

I don't get why people hate yasou actually, maybe just nerf his ult so he can only ult on his spell, otherwise I don't see him as an issue actually. I mean, have you seen kayle? he doesn't have a chance against her. All the champs in lol has counters and yasou has plenty of them

AseraanFeb 23, 20191 votes

Some folks as myself you see doesnt like that some champs can twist ur entire game around them. Cuz i will be honest whit you i never find myself more stressed on a alne in mid than vs a yasuo even whit ahri or velkoz or veigar cuz i know he will capitalise on my smallest msitake( IF HE IS HALF DECENT) cuz the guy is built to punish hard and be unpunishable(i know this isnt a term whit him all the time but he has soo many safetynets going on).

Also some folks cant just play anivia into him all the time. Also some folks just straight up deciding to not even try to learn and counterpick/build, wich is a very high problem in the lower elo where i play not just against yasuo.

Light BurnerFeb 24, 20191 votes

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Some folks as myself you see doesnt like that some champs can twist ur entire game around them. Cuz i will be honest whit you i never find myself more stressed on a alne in mid than vs a yasuo even whit ahri or velkoz or veigar cuz i know he will capitalise on my smallest msitake( IF HE IS HALF DECENT) cuz the guy is built to punish hard and be unpunishable(i know this isnt a term whit him all the time but he has soo many safetynets going on).

Also some folks cant just play anivia into him all the time. Also some folks just straight up deciding to not even try to learn and counterpick/build, wich is a very high problem in the lower elo where i play not just against yasuo.

The first half of your post makes no sense tho.. I dont even see what you mean by the first sentence but if you explain it further ill make a comment on it because i feel like i know what you're saying but i dont want to assume. He's built to punish hard and he can be punished hard (if you call it hard) Hes extremely weak to cc much like master yi is. And the 2nd half of your comment literally said nothing besides the elo you play in makes alot of mistakes.

AseraanFeb 24, 20191 votes

Well yes the second half is just there to say lower elo palyers """"TEND"""" to not know or even bother to get to know the match ups they dont like.

As for the 1st part i dont see whats wrong whit it expect the millions of gramar msitakes i didnt bother to fix. I was sayin that i find him way too safe even in matchups where i counterpick him and he still has tool to basically negate the fact that im counterpicking him if im not palying velkoz, lux or Xerath. And he can punish mistakes way too often for way little effort considering his shield comes back on way too fast when he is dashing around.

Light BurnerFeb 24, 20191 votes

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Well yes the second half is just there to say lower elo palyers """"TEND"""" to not know or even bother to get to know the match ups they dont like.

As for the 1st part i dont see whats wrong whit it expect the millions of gramar msitakes i didnt bother to fix. I was sayin that i find him way too safe even in matchups where i counterpick him and he still has tool to basically negate the fact that im counterpicking him if im not palying velkoz, lux or Xerath. And he can punish mistakes way too often for way little effort considering his shield comes back on way too fast when he is dashing around.

When hes dashing around hes pushing the wave and yasuo is supposed to be strong vs mages.

AseraanFeb 24, 20192 votes

Holly fk ur right i just looked after them my top 2 mids are weak agaisnt himXD and i was playing them against into him whit no problem Holly fk hes maybe rly harder to play than some says.XD

3TWarriorFeb 24, 20191 votes

what lane do you face him in and with what champions do you face him?

he is countered in top lane by almost everyone that naturally stays there

in mid lane, only 14 of the OVER 30 mages have a method to deal with his windwall

ranged attackers, there are roughly 5