Can Presence of Mind give Shen 20 energy (up to +100) to match his doubled energy pool and costs?

PopcornBunni·12/9/2019, 2:42:47 AM·33 votes·14,429 views

Shen is unique among the energy champions in that he has twice the total energy of his contemporaries (at 400 from the usual 200), but also has twice the usual energy costs on his spells. The net result of which is that he sits sort of half-way between the other energy champions and the more typical mana-based ones.

This preseason came with a change to Presence of Mind to give 100 mana or 10 energy per take down, up to five times, giving most champions that use the rune around 1.25x their usual resource pool. Obviously it differs based on the mana champion, but 2000 mana is pretty normal if not going out of the way to build extra.

Shen kind of got the short end of the stick though. With an energy pool of 400 and high costs to match, he gets half the value out of the rune as anyone else.

All that would need to change is make the energy portion of the rune read "5% bonus energy, up to a maximum of 25%." This would make Shen just as much of a beneficiary as the others. Well other than him being a tank and thus being harder to get those takedowns with. But when he DOES, he would benefit the same way everyone else does.

38 Comments

LightswornLance12/9/2019, 2:47:58 AM6 votes

Shen already has no problems with energy upkeep... Seeing as he's a tank triumph will always be better on him.

Th3KindredSpirit12/9/2019, 6:20:53 AM5 votes

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General Esdeath 12/9/2019, 8:18:42 PM4 votes

Some of these replies got me worried lmao

Do people not understand OP's point? Shen is getting the same amount of energy, yes, but he has DOUBLE the energy pool and DOUBLE the costs. Imagine if Riot suddenly said "Zed only gets 5 energy now instead of 10 whenever he gets a takedown, with a cap of 25 instead of 50. "

Predatorator12/9/2019, 7:54:11 PM3 votes

or, we double the energy costs of the other users. win win

Idgaf I am iron12/9/2019, 2:49:42 PM3 votes

https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Presence_of_Mind

Champions that use energy as a resource restore 40 − 50 energy and can only have a maximum of 250 energy. With the exception of Shen, who restores 80 − 90 energy and reaches a maximum of 450 energy.

i think they thought it through already and decided on this.

xelaker12/9/2019, 5:24:39 PM2 votes

I always thought the energy peeps had low pools to make up for not really having to worry about mana sustain in lane.

nm101012/10/2019, 5:02:27 PM2 votes

Shen benefits more from the % energy gain on kill/assist already so this isn't really necessary.

KFCeytron12/9/2019, 10:49:32 AM1 votes

I just learned that PoM's ult CD refund was removed in favor of totally redundant mana and now I am sad.

Divine Voidling12/9/2019, 8:18:41 PM1 votes

Given Presence of Mind is busted on champions it can be abused on... I would think more about nerfing it and not how to make Shen join S++ tier...

MrFawknSunshine12/9/2019, 3:24:58 AM1 votes

yes if you take the presence of mind you can get a bigger energy pool

Larriet12/9/2019, 9:55:54 PM1 votes

Or maybe halve his pool/costs and don't arbitrarily change a rune to work differently for exactly ONE Champion?

Garson21112/10/2019, 5:35:23 PM1 votes

First off all this runes should not give energy at all coz there come cancers like akali lee kennen.

Trias00012/9/2019, 5:16:31 PM1 votes

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Well other than him being a tank and thus being harder to get those takedowns with

? What? He hits like a truck. Besides, he can press R for a free assist.