apparently elder dragon overrides the other 4 drags/soul so hard what was the point of even obtaining soul.
it doesnt feel like a dragon it feels like a absolute cheat code. THAT burn shouldnt exist in the game of how much damage it deals.
at least nerf it vs how much drags that team has instead of simply ha ha we stole elder so we auto win despite winning teamfights in the past.
iiGazeii4 votesThe whole point of it is that it's a potential comeback moment. If the dragon soul guaranteed you'd win the teamfight even if the enemy stole the Elder from you, then there'd be no point in fighting over Elder.
Elder is a massive power boost, but it should put you on even footing with the team that has four drakes and the Soul. The team with the Soul had an advantage and lost Elder anyway, so the enemy team gets a chance to comeback. Once Elder buff runs out, you'll still have the Soul.
xDogMeatx2 votesThe whole point of it is that it's a potential comeback moment. If the dragon soul guaranteed you'd win the teamfight even if the enemy stole the Elder from you, then there'd be no point in fighting over Elder.
Elder is a massive power boost, but it should put you on even footing with the team that has four drakes and the Soul. The team with the Soul had an advantage and lost Elder anyway, so the enemy team gets a chance to comeback. Once Elder buff runs out, you'll still have the Soul.
heres the thing though. it still feels like a massive cheat code. despite winning teamfight after teamfight all it takes ONE little objective to screw up and delete your whole game. number of drags should give some sorta true dmg resistance. all my work didnt matter because of that one thing
Skia Asteri1 votesheres the thing though. it still feels like a massive cheat code. despite winning teamfight after teamfight all it takes ONE little objective to screw up and delete your whole game.
It is possible for the team that gets Elder to not win. But later game mistakes like losing Elder should be more punishing than earlier mistakes.
xDogMeatx1 votes[{quoted}](name=Skia Asteri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eElyUVOO,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-13T22:46:16.183+0000)
It is possible for the team that gets Elder to not win. But later game mistakes like losing Elder should be more punishing than earlier mistakes.
the damage is overtuned on that thing.
Paroe2 votesConsidering elder doesnt spawn until the dragon soul is taken, shouldnt the elder buff only give the burn to the team with the soul?
Revech2 votesTeam fight importance scales with the respawn timers late game...If you had a significant lead you should have played around elder or at least denied it. Probably just poor macro. I do think the importance of drakes has made top lane even more irrelevant. In my opinion having the drakes alternate spawn top / bottom would shake up the bot lane meta, and increase drake HP would stop people soloing drakes early making team fights around objectives more action packed.
xDogMeatx1 votesTeam fight importance scales with the respawn timers late game...If you had a significant lead you should have played around elder or at least denied it. Probably just poor macro. I do think the importance of drakes has made top lane even more irrelevant. In my opinion having the drakes alternate spawn top / bottom would shake up the bot lane meta, and increase drake HP would stop people soloing drakes early making team fights around objectives more action packed.
if elder was taken though it simply is a 'Exodia Obliterate' attack. and 2ndly how can i play around elder if im yuumi and had 5 secs (or something) on respawn timer while the rest of my team is almost back to life. that objective is not a comeback mechanic no matter how i look at it. as someone before me said this "if elder is taken you might as well blow up the enemy nexus after its taken."
Boomer1 votesDepends. If you knew drake was going to spawn on top side, then bot lane would just rotate up there in anything above gold.
Caretaker Jack2 votesIf you got the soul and couldn't end or contest elder, then ur bad... U deserved to lose.
xDogMeatx1 votes[{quoted}](name=Caretaker Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eElyUVOO,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-14T03:15:53.516+0000)
If you got the soul and couldn't end or contest elder, then ur bad... U deserved to lose.
let me guess one little mistake means im bad.. awesome.
nah they are bad after all they lost teamfight after teamfight. its a cheat coded dragon that allows one sided massacres.
Caretaker Jack1 voteslet me guess one little mistake means im bad.. awesome.
nah they are bad after all they lost teamfight after teamfight. its a cheat coded dragon that allows one sided massacres.
Elder is there to shorten games for ppl who don't know how to play. If your game comes down to Elder, it's your own fault.
You won the soul, right? So y'all had to have been strong enough to take rift. Why didn't you? If you're good, then why are you losing fights? If you're winning then why cant you end? Why aren't you taking advantage of your dumb ally going 1v3? How are you being stalled? Above all: how is Elder able to slip through your hands when you're so powerful in the first place?
xDogMeatx1 votes[{quoted}](name=Caretaker Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eElyUVOO,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-12-17T00:29:51.557+0000)
Elder is there to shorten games for ppl who don't know how to play. If your game comes down to Elder, it's your own fault.
You won the soul, right? So y'all had to have been strong enough to take rift. Why didn't you? If you're good, then why are you losing fights? If you're winning then why cant you end? Why aren't you taking advantage of your dumb ally going 1v3? How are you being stalled? Above all: how is Elder able to slip through your hands when you're so powerful in the first place?
answer: im yuumi.