why doesnt nexus have true sight like the towers?

xDogMeatx·Aug 13, 2019·16 votes·8,281 views

title. it needs some perks to deal with stealthed units. besides the obvious buy a control ward thing its late game and no slots left so i would have to purposely gimp myself to do that.

13 Comments

Quil EvrythingAug 13, 20196 votes

i guess the rationale is taht its like a giant inhib, and inhibs dont give vision.

xDogMeatxAug 13, 20195 votes

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i guess the rationale is taht its like a giant inhib, and inhibs dont give vision.

i guess i can see it like that since inhibs/nexus share regeneration and 0 resists. but still perma stealth units late game is pretty op since all they gotta do is sell everything and go full attack/damage vs nexus (most cheese way but not practical in combat based)

Quil EvrythingAug 13, 20195 votes

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but still perma stealth units late game is pretty op since all they gotta do is sell everything and go full attack/damage vs nexus (most cheese way but not practical in combat based)

HEEYYY thanks for the tip! and dont forget it works for players with teleport and a properly placed ward! :)

BeersteinAug 13, 20191 votes

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HEEYYY thanks for the tip! and dont forget it works for players with teleport and a properly placed ward! :)

Which is why normal people use lens sweepers at this point. But I still say if you lose both towers you earned the crap position you're in.

Farih DanhAug 14, 20191 votes

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Which is why normal people use lens sweepers at this point. But I still say if you lose both towers you earned the crap position you're in.

Earned? Sometimes they can destroy turrets when your dead.i think you dont even play rift. Also sweeping lens not that usefull when you push a little bit or try to defend when they engage some champs like Evelynn Khazix MonkeyKing Pyke can easily backdoor

BeersteinAug 14, 20191 votes

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You earned? Sometimes they can destroy turrets when your dead.i think you dont even play rift... Also you sound so r%%%%% with passive aggressive

Lol, I've played it plenty and have 94.6 comeback score on Mobalytics, been in this situation more times than I can count, and won plenty. Yeah it sucks to get there, but A. I shouldn't have let it get there and B. If I'm dead, it's still my fault for being dead. Practice playing from behind, it's never a good situation and you always have to be cautious and get inhibs back up, but again, it's a position YOU got yourself into, and that the enemy team earned.

Yours is 57.1 (See? I actually check before trash-talking someone). Maybe the problem is you need to practice playing from behind instead of asking riot to change the game because you can't. Sounds like a personal problem to me.

I get that it's frustrating and difficult for literally anyone in that position, but again, we let it get there. Also, wards to teleport can be cleared, stealth champions need extra caution, but also tend to fall off. You mention switching to full attack. That's a MASSIVE risk if you're guarding it, if you fell for that, you deserve to lose to be honest, because someone just blew their entire shot on 1 move. In addition, AP scales into building damage right now which it didn't used to years ago, do you realize that? AP champions annihilate buildings late game.

To me, you're complaining without much knowledge to back it. Of course it's frustrating to be in that position so you're getting upvotes, but it doesn't change anything about you A. Putting yourself in that position B. Not adapting to it and C. Losing to someone that sold and re-bought their entire inventory on a 1 shot and pulled it off because you didn't B.

All in, this person you mention selling everything for full AD was an idiot, he blew his entire game on a gamble, and you let your shot at turning it around by making a frustrated player trying a cheese move because he was tilting out of the game after not being able to end it win. That's the reality of it.

xDogMeatxAug 14, 20191 votes

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HEEYYY thanks for the tip! and dont forget it works for players with teleport and a properly placed ward! :)

im guessing i didnt know ap units can still hard sink building as well anyways its still attack speed/ ap burst ( Evelynn can only do this since ap and stealth champ unless Shaco goes box/attack speed mode) the point is if you get on a ap champ something like item 3100 item 3115 item 3006 item 3089 item 3124 item 3091 you can cheese a nexus with attack speed/ap damage. yes its not combat optimal but it is objective dps so you dont get caught before you do your job backdooring. the gathering storm you get late game contribute greatly to this power.

BeersteinAug 13, 20193 votes

Because there are two towers right in front of it. Use them.

xDogMeatxAug 13, 201914 votes

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Because there are two towers right in front of it. Use them.

if they go down there should be some compensation defense for nexus lategame all slots full.

BeersteinAug 14, 20191 votes

"As a result of what we were seeing, we initially designed an early version of Eternals with a loot-based system, but it felt overly complicated and too punishing to be a satisfying approach for League. As a result, we went back to the basics: We’d package sets of three Eternals for players to get with RP. "

But guys, they just want to save us from the punishment of having to grind them without real money.

DeathBurstAug 14, 20191 votes

If your nexus is open without any tower at all, giving it true sight won't change much, mate ^^' You already lost, 99% sure.

xDogMeatxAug 14, 20191 votes

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If your nexus is open without any tower at all, giving it true sight won't change much, mate ^^' You already lost, 99% sure.

it changes alot more than you think. it disallows those cheap tactics with stealth and ward teleporting to nexus incidents due to it revealing/allowing destruction of said wards/invisible units.

DeathBurstAug 14, 20191 votes

Not really, no. People would just put the ward 3 meters farther, out of range of nexus vision, but that's still close enough for those same cheap tactics.