What options are there for hybrid scaling stealth junglers?

PopcornBunni··1 votes·1,192 views

One of the things I liked most about Evelynn pre-update was that she offered hybrid damage in the form of both burst and followup, while also being able to stalk foes to jump on them when they became isolated.

Her hybrid damage came in the form of:

Her E, which dealt physical damage scaling with 100% bonus AD and 100% AP, making it particularly strong with item 3100 / item 3078 item 3147 item 3146

The attack speed steroid on her E, allowing followup mixed damage in an on-hit build with things like item 3115 item 3091 item 1416 item 3153 item 3124

Her ult, an AP-scaling burst based on her targets' current health

And her Q, a magic-dealing recurrent damage source with hybrid scaling slightly favoring AD but with more synergies with things like item 3116 or item 1402 since it stacked spell casts so rapidly

Tying all these together was her W which was her engage tool while her ult was down, or her disengage while using her REQQQ... combo.

With her rework, she lost not only her hybrid damage, but also all of her hybrid scaling. While inverting her ult from a combo starter to an execute is definitely more fitting for an assassin, the rest of her kit is much less adaptable, leaving her building the same items every game with among the lest variability among the cast, a complete 180 from her being one of the most adaptable characters in the game.

Now I'm aware there were issues with her previous kit. Her R especially was antithetical to her role not just as an assassin, but in-universe as a monster that wants to tear her targets to pieces. There was also the issue of one of her more prevalent builds being full tank, again due to her ult's horrible AP scaling but strong engage power.

But, in lieu of Riot going back into Evelynn's kit and adding hybrid ratiosto Q or E, or an AS steroid on her E, I'm looking for replacement champions for what was my prior favorite jungler.

Shyvana has the hybrid ratios but not the ability to stalk and rip apart an isolated target Nocturne seems somewhat in line, but with such poor ap and magic damage that he's left with either a full AD assassin path, or on-hit alone. His ult also requires far more team participation to ensure the map is well-lit to hit an isolated target. Shaco Similarly has no AP burst, nor any ability to increase his on-hit prowess

Presuming these don't themselves get a repackaging to remove their adaptable builds, what other champion can fill the role performed by the previous version of Evelynn?

3 Comments

AlienPrimate1 votes

There is no one. This is why I hate reworks. The same can be said for old Galio. Which champion can now fill the role of a self healing, melee, ranged casting tank? The closest thing after he was reworked to fit those requirements was Swain who lacked the melee auto attacks. Now with him reworked the closest thing is probably Maokai who doesn't really have any range and his heal has a really long cooldown early game.

PopcornBunni1 votes

Maokai and Gragas as true tanks, Chogath as a weird battlemage warden juggernaut hybrid, Mordekaiser as more of a pure juggernaut.

With Ravenous Hunter and/or item 3146, Rammus and Amumu can get the "heal from being attacked" portion.

The real loss from old galio is Righteous Gust, his old wind flap that gave his team a tailwind effect.

AlienPrimate1 votes

Righteous Gust was nice but wasn't what made me love him. His W and ult were the things that made me main him. I would love if they reverted his W and R and would probably start playing him frequently again if they did. The Q is less satisfying now than before when the power of it could be "felt" as it hit but that isn't a make or break it part of his kit for me.

Here is a little something for some nostalgia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUvHj3jH9Xc

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