Why was Kassadin buffed again?

Eedat·Apr 29, 2017·25 votes·3,153 views

https://na.op.gg/champion/kassadin/statistics/mid

Why did Kassadin needs buffs when he was sitting on a 50% win rate? Do you not remember the last time you made him meta?

41 Comments

Lady HammerlockApr 30, 201711 votes

Actually his buffs didn't do as much as people think, it's because the meta is filled with mid lane mages which fun fact, he's amazing against

EedatApr 30, 20171 votes

He had a 50% win rate and it was all mages in mid. Its still all mages in mid and now he's pushing 54% after the buffs. The meta had absolutely nothing to do with it lmao

FikuleApr 30, 20178 votes

That seems healthier tbh. His win rate should be above 50% when it's all mages mid. If he's only 50% when facing champions he counters then that's bad, it would mean in a non-mage meta he's below average.

Lady HammerlockApr 30, 20171 votes

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He had a 50% win rate and it was all mages in mid. Its still all mages in mid and now he's pushing 54% after the buffs. The meta had absolutely nothing to do with it lmao

I guess it's time for the gut sniper to be fired But you know, I freaking hope riot just reverts the buffs instead of nerfing everything else then reverting

PennsApr 29, 20174 votes

Because apparently his late game scaling wasnt strong enough

lel

FikuleApr 30, 20171 votes

I think the reasoning is he has a weaker early game strength than most other assassins while only having an on-par late game.

AhristocatsApr 29, 20174 votes

he was strong but not popular, so they buffed him to make him popular and then they're going to nerf him back to 50% win rate, and his pick rate will remain high i guess

Fed by Snu SnuApr 29, 201718 votes

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he was strong but not popular, so they buffed him to make him popular and then they're going to nerf him back to 50% win rate, and his pick rate will remain high i guess

Kassadin skin confirmed?

AhristocatsApr 29, 20177 votes

https://images.rapgenius.com/81b18b308ca41ebc74b726171fc1db04.357x296x44.gif

Troll for TrumpApr 29, 201710 votes

Nerf Kassadin Circlejerk threads confirmed?

Fly Fish MasterApr 29, 20171 votes

If his pickrate in lower elos goes up, maybe.

KingnewgameplusApr 30, 20171 votes

We needed a new one tbh otherwise what would the gameplay boards have?

DerfelApr 29, 20173 votes

Riot wanted to nerf their assassin update but didn't want to admit they fucked it up

FikuleApr 30, 20171 votes

nerf their assassin update by buffing an assassin?

TeemoXNidaleeApr 30, 20173 votes

Oh kassadin should never be allowed to be above 50% winrate, meanwhile Ahri

KingnewgameplusApr 30, 20171 votes

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RainfallApr 30, 20173 votes

saying 50% winrate with 0.000000000000000000000000000000001% playrate means he is balanced is like saying a test is easy because 100% of the students passed when 1 guy took the test.

AirKingNeoApr 30, 20172 votes

Seriously? We're complaining about a weak champion getting buffs because he was overpowered once?

He's no Azir or Kalista. Don't treat him as such.

SalronApr 30, 20172 votes

Weak champion LOL

AirKingNeoApr 30, 20172 votes

You're being serious? Like no joke? Guy wasn't meta at all and being buffed is bad?

SalronApr 30, 20172 votes

Not popular =! Weak People really need to stop with this mentality

DzyntaMokryApr 30, 20171 votes

he was nowhere near being "weak" :) im suprised that almost no1 plays kassa in competetive games, to weak early game when helping ur jungler is rly important now?

AirKingNeoApr 30, 20171 votes

idk why don't people play vayne then?

DzyntaMokryApr 30, 20172 votes

who plays vayne in competetive?

KeevalroyApr 30, 20171 votes

That's exactly how we should treat him.

Someone didn't play in season 3/4 from the looks of it.

MannnyApr 30, 20172 votes

Because he was perfectly normal and fine? You know the drill, fuck up all normal and perfectly fine champions, woo!

YambrinZApr 30, 20172 votes

They need to prep Kass for worlds. He makes lcs big plays.

AmazoXApr 29, 20171 votes

When did he get buffs?

KhadaverApr 29, 20171 votes

2 patches ago i think

The Last BalladApr 29, 20172 votes

It was a 1 second decrease on his e, and a .1 increase on his ult's ap ratio.

AstreaSoulApr 29, 20173 votes

Don't forget the bug fix to his W - that one was probably the most important.

AmazoXApr 30, 20173 votes

The bug fix was the most important, It was so irritating.

AwesomeGuyDjApr 30, 20171 votes

Yeaaah if you can play kass you can carry hard. My friend has been face rolling games as kass going positive kd's carrying consistently.

LadyRenlyApr 30, 20171 votes

kassadins only been used in lcs

still wont change the fact hes a bad solo q champ

VenomarApr 30, 20171 votes

They did the same thing with lux at the beginning of the season. It's more of a Riot Implimenting a cheese-dick buff that doesn't really do anything to the champion expect tell the player base "hey this Champs good right now play them more" to try and swing the meta around and shake things up.

KeevalroyApr 30, 20171 votes

Because Riot's balance team doesn't like (or understand) late-game champions needing to scale because explosions from minute one is the desired vision of gameplay for them. Who cares if he hits late game faster? What's the worst that could happen? It's not like Kassadin is an extremely delicate champion to fuck with or anything right? ...oh wait.

YoungSirJ0eyApr 30, 20172 votes

Uh... He's not though. They removed both volatile elements of his kit a while ago. He's now just as balanceable as any other character. And these buffs didn't make him hit lategame faster. He still needs 3 items to do anything.

JustCallMeSPEDApr 30, 20171 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/Kassadin/Middle?league=bronze

His statistics according to champion.gg are much lower. Maybe he's doing better in NA than everywhere else, but across the board, he went from < 50% to just better than 50%. His win rate in NA could just be because as Americans, we keep obsessing over who is the new meta; we see Kass got a buff (a tiny, TINY buff at that), we all immediately play Kass to see if he now tromps lane, and suddenly you have a ton of people who don't normally play as or against Kass in the same game, and Kass wins because people don't play against him often vs. who is the current "meta".

That's my completely boundless take on it, anyway.

Edit: Grammar fixes.

SociopathFriendApr 30, 20171 votes

Do you not remember the last time you made him meta?

You mean the same time Talon and Leblanc were ALSO meta and made midlane a living hell for mages? Right up until they slap that silence back on him, he'll never be QUITE that annoying again.

YoungSirJ0eyApr 30, 20171 votes

Because literally no one was playing him and so they thought he was bad. He wasn't.