ADCs are being used to dominate Jungle by smurfers

ExternalLink·4/6/2018, 6:53:51 AM·24 votes·2,108 views

So can we now admit that there's a major problem? Multiple smurfs popping up with Twitch/Kai'sai Jungle, and hitting high dia/masters with extremely high winrates on these champions. In the past such feats would be reserved for champions such as Yi, Nidalee, Zac, Shyvana or Elise - all dedicated Jungle champions, but they're now being outdone by champions whose main role is ADC.

When champions whose dominant role is ADC start to out-do Junglers at their own role it becomes clear as day that there's a major problem. Especially considering that the Jungle requires strong 1v1 duelling ability, which is what ADCs SHOULD be weakest at, yet they're still nonetheless succeeding. It also requires certain other traits that ADCs shouldn't be particularly effective at (barring Kindred, who was made for the Jungle), yet they're still not only succeeding, but DOMINATING.

63 Comments

Marothennan4/6/2018, 10:33:08 AM15 votes

Twitch jungle is nothing new though, people have been doing it for seasons

Terozu4/6/2018, 3:40:04 PM15 votes

Those two are junglers and adcs. So your title is misleading.

Talk to me when Ashe is jungling.

xToxicOsirisx4/6/2018, 9:31:50 AM13 votes

Whoo whee, that 47.25% winrate with .85% pickrate twitch jungle! gotta nerf that. way too strong.

I'll give you kai'sa, but thats probably because they buffed everything about her kit within one patch of her release. This tends to happen with new champions.

Jerry SeinfeId4/6/2018, 2:15:54 PM11 votes

jeez it's almost as if they're both hybrid marksmen. Kai sa was designed to be able to assassinate, and twitch has always had assassin as secondary role.

Kai sa duels quite well so she can jungle, she also got overbuffed. Twitch jungle is cheese, nothing more nothing less. if he can't cheese you he can't jungle that well.

Orange Caramel4/6/2018, 6:58:24 AM10 votes

What happened to promoting role diversity?

Velasan4/6/2018, 3:49:43 PM9 votes

... You picked two champions that have ALWAYS been able to JG. Kaisa who is new wasn't specifically defined as only being able to ADC. Her kit makes her part assassin ( see vayne for another assassin adc) and if you focus on that part of her kit she can jg just fine.

Twitch JG has been a cheese pick forever, at least since I've been playing. Quinn can also jg she just isn't popular right now. Although so can Karthus and Malzahar.

It's not a question of having an ADC in the jungle, it's that it should be a meaningful choice. You gain something and give up something at the same time to play an ADC in that role. So, usually this means having a squishy ADC for a jungler.

Playing Kha'zix, Rengar, Kayne, Warwick, or even Volibear can make their lives miserable.

We already have two dedicated ADC junglers (Kindred and Graves) and neither one is meta right now.

GripaAviara4/6/2018, 1:56:47 PM5 votes

Nidalee - trash atm after enemy team gets 2-3 items Yi - broken but almost perma banned Zac - super strong, but like nidalee, falls of late game Shyvana - tf atm are not her strong suit Elise - same as Nidalee

Ofc Rengar,Kayn, Shaco, Kha or ADC jungle are the perfect pick for smurf. First part you get 1 shot fest, second you get ... penta kill fest