Im talking about 
And CoC.
doesnt count because thats his passive on a long cd.
How do you outplay someone who gets free shields for either doing nothing, or it has zero cost? Hey guys this Yasuo is low and his wall is down, just one more hit and...oh he pressed R and got a massive shield for free. Thats not "outplaying". Thats just bullshit.
Oleandervine5 votesThe shields you listed are not free.
Camille has to decide if she needs a AP or AD shield, and that requires her to melee auto someone and stack HP. It is 20% of her max HP. It is great in solo duels, but becomes lackluster in team fights.
Vi is the same way - she has to put herself in danger and expend an ability to trigger her shield. It is 10% of her max HP. She also has to stack HP for it to be relevant. An ability is a cooldown, which is not free.
Riven, like Vi, requires an ability to activate her shield, an ability which she cannot activate if snared. An ability which has a CD. It scales on her AD.
Rumble, like Riven and Vi, requires an ability to activate his shield, which scales on AP, which means he's not getting the most from it if he stacks HP. An ability which has a CD.
Despite my loathing hate for him. I will now defend Yasuo. Yasuo has the closest thing to a free shield. What keeps it from being free is that it requires him to walk to regenerate it and he can't control when it breaks.
Blitzcrank has a shield that shields him for 50% of his current mana. He is actively encouraged to build mana tank items and HP. It's on a long CD, and thus is not free.
xWaters2 votesThe shields you listed are not free.
Camille has to decide if she needs a AP or AD shield, and that requires her to melee auto someone and stack HP. It is 20% of her max HP. It is great in solo duels, but becomes lackluster in team fights.
Vi is the same way - she has to put herself in danger and expend an ability to trigger her shield. It is 10% of her max HP. She also has to stack HP for it to be relevant. An ability is a cooldown, which is not free.
Riven, like Vi, requires an ability to activate her shield, an ability which she cannot activate if snared. An ability which has a CD. It scales on her AD.
Rumble, like Riven and Vi, requires an ability to activate his shield, which scales on AP, which means he's not getting the most from it if he stacks HP. An ability which has a CD.
Despite my loathing hate for him. I will now defend Yasuo. Yasuo has the closest thing to a free shield. What keeps it from being free is that it requires him to walk to regenerate it and he can't control when it breaks.
Blitzcrank has a shield that shields him for 50% of his current mana. He is actively encouraged to build mana tank items and HP. It's on a long CD, and thus is not free.
Oh wow Camille decides by right clicking the enemy? I'm blown away by the tremendous skill.
LightSword2 votesThe significance of this depends on the situation, she has to choose who to land her first auto on (if she can effectively reach her desired target). She also has to be careful in using it at early levels because it gives her a lot of her trading power.
LightSword1 votesAnd because is so often played support, the support itemization kinda screws that over somewhat.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=SNU ScarraCCouch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e90WskFN,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2016-12-22T00:14:16.844+0000)
And because
It's fairly customary to build Frozen Heart or Iceborn Gauntlet on tanky supports - also the new version of Banner of Command. All three of these items are ideal for supports and sport hefty mana pools.
Handy Sandy 3 votesPretty much every shield in the game is a point and click or something like 
, we should take away their shields too!
fuffychan1 votesTheir shields require timing and decision making by putting them on allies. Oh and they cost huge amounts of mana.
All the champions I listed get literal FREE shields.
Hardly a valid comparison.
Handy Sandy 1 votesTheir shields require timing and decision making by putting them on allies. Oh and they cost huge amounts of mana.
All the champions I listed get literal FREE shields.
Hardly a valid comparison.
The champions you listed are also melee
ArtCraft1 votesPretty much every shield in the game is a point and click or something like
Sona's is a bit more easy than Janna's but they both take a level of skill that isnt super easy. Being some of the only abilities that you cast on teamates, its easy to fuck it up.
Malicious Metal3 votes
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Big Lincoln2 votesYasuo saved his third Q and managed to either hit you with his tornado or he took the risk to EQ in and it paid off? That sure sounds like he outplayed you.
fuffychan1 votesBecause his teammates with knockups dont exist.
R0XTAR2 votes
While we're at it, let's remove 
for self healing!! You're being ridiculous. Almost 40% of champions have a low cost or free shield. The point of them is defense if they really don't have it in their kit...
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OR
git g00d and find a way to make yourself better.
Time your attacks right and their shields won't matter.
jr deputy meow2 votesthis thread is ridiculous. every champ has a power budget, and shields are part of that budget for these champs.
rumble and riven lose an entire ability slot for their shield - rumble's isn't even good. Rumble's shield has relatively poor scaling, terrible base numbers, and a completely negligible speed boost. Its only saving grace is that it has no resource cost other than its cooldown, but keep in mind he could have had another damage ability in its place. How often can you really say, as rumble, that your shield cast in a teamfight saved your life? it's only really good for weathering out harass in lane.
SeaGodUrronuos1 votesAlright, what you are suggesting is that riot take out every shield that these champions have, for what reason, it doesn't take tf class skil to use them, what you are saying would take out of so many champions kits and also bloodthirster as well considering you just right click (no skill). that is quite severe for someone who is upset about others having more skill, it does take skill to know when or not to shield in higher elos, then if point click is no skill why not take out ignite, flash, ghost, heal, barrier, why not its just no skill... if you don't have the skill to outplay that shield there is no biusness to be in any competitive play.
Apocalypsic1 votesEvery shield takes no skill.
This is a moot point.
The skill is when and how someone utilizes one.