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"Riot doesn't listen to boards"

Disembark··10 votes·649 views

Okay, so I've been hovering the boards since around the start of season 7 and one of the very common things I see is statements like

"Riot doesn't care about what boards thinks because they love x champion" "Riot only balances around competitive and all of our voices are unheard" "Riot won't ever respond to any REAL questions cause they don't care about boards"

Really? Even now recently with Lucian and now Draven I see the same mentality. That Riot is purposefully keeping the game imbalanced.

Let's go over the things that boards incessantly cried about:

Jhin "52% win rate, 50% play rate" "Oh but riot will never nerf Jhin because he's so 'balanced'"

>lethality nerfed >dft nerfed >champion nerfed

Completely gutted. "Riot will never touch Jhin he's ALWAYS meta"

Lee Sin You've all seen it. Especially when Riot posted that they didn't want to make Lee Sin unviable for competitive.

"Never nerf lee cause LCS big playz!"

>ult damage nerfed >ult cd nerfed

Still meta because of the state of the jungle. Until it becomes not viable to gank 24/7 Lee Sin and Elise WILL be strong.

Jungle

"Jungler are level 6 when laners are level 4" "Riot loves junglers so much" "Hecarim just runs in and 1 shots me"

>Farming jungle nerfed into the ground so now only junglers that can gank non-stop are viable

Yasuo Yep

"Shouldn't be so strong in lane if he's a late game hyper carry" "Shouldn't be able to hold his nado for so long"

>Can only hold nado for 6 secs >Nerfed E early game and Q base

Lucian

"He can just 1 shot me and dash away" "He abuses Bork too much and has too good of a lane phase"

>Increase mana costs to pigeonhole him into ER. >Building ER makes his mid game garbage and puts him back into garbage gutter trash tier. He still mostly goes Bork/Cleaver because running into 500 range without cleaver hp = death, often even with dash.

Snowballing

Added catchup XP and rubberbanding. Also made death timers less before 35 minutes to stop snowballing and make things less punishing. It's not their fault if smaller death timers means that your team mates are just gonna int faster.

ADC in 2k17

Never really a thing on boards, because they hate ADCs, but a widely accepted notion at the start of the season. They nerfed jungle XP so they didn't hit 6 so quick and recently changed ADC items and now ADCs are in a ridiculous spot.

Camille

>Nerfed a bunch and now her "super overloaded kit" seems balanced

Zac Rito u gutted Zac

>Now he's a busted ass champ

Malzahar

Rito you made Malzahar a support

Why did you put so much into his voidlings?

>Changed him to rely more on other abilities >Kind of busted

Tank Fizz

Pigeonhole Fizz into building AP. Him being a Bruiser is too annoying

>Still Busted

Ahri

Put more of her agency in landing her charm

>Exactly what Riot did

TL;DR: From what I've seen like 80%+ of legitimate concerns I see on boards are addressed within WEEKS of them being an issue. People need to stop going for Riot's throat when they've pretty much given you EXACTLY what you wanted

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Risk of Fate2 votes

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Dreadlocks3 votes

Anywho, Riot listens to the boards from what I've seen and ignore silly things like Star Guardian Urgot or reverting Rengar (please don't, I actually like playing ADC now and not being deleted before I can even leave base)

Ironically Riot did respond to the uproar in regards to Rengar. And i can still 1 shot you from in your base with this shitty version. Just saying..

And ill just point this out in your comment

It's kind of odd to see people complain about X being OP but then X being trash because a small tap. -> the changes they made to her this patch makes her feel...unsatisfying to me.

Risk of Fate1 votes

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Dreadlocks3 votes

Can definitely agree with you on that. I still think they should just go back to making her other abilities do more damage if the target is charmed...

goalgetter6661 votes

Umm most of the Rengar related threads are actually fighting for a satisfying kit (old Q mostly) while having a whole kit which is also accepted by the community (maybe change R or smth). Nobody mentioned that they wanted old Rengar back because of the One shot itself... I don't think it's silly to fight for his main champ to be enjoyable again.

Marshbouy1 votes

People just need more patience "OMG WHEN IS X CHAMPION BEING ADDRESSED" meanwhile, X champion got changes in a patch 2 days ago.

53011 votes

The boards loves to complain. By far more than Reddit. Nothing is going to stop the circle jerking and vote farming

The amount of Lee complains here are retarded, for example

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

I agree for most.

Camille

Nerfed a bunch and now her "super overloaded kit" seems balanced

COUGH cough

ThePikol1 votes

Or maybe Riot just sees the same problems players do and fix them? They don't need us to inform them about some balance problems

hhaavviikk1 votes

meanwhile it still took riot years to nerf lee sin even though there have been threads on the forums since lee sin's release asking for nerfs

deadlychuck1 votes

Eh, Malzahar's changes took over a year to get, despite every patch w/ malzahar even mentioned resulting in 2-3 popular threads about the terrible rework, and the final product ended up being a design which would've been easier to achieve without the rework, and every remaining questionable aspect of the current state is something which was introduced in the rework. The passive and the changed voidlings.

That said, I have no doubt that they pay attention to the boards, but it's just not that they respond to them frequently. Now how do I figure this to be the case? Well probably about 5 or 6 days before the PBE release of the new kit, I made a thread spit-balling ideas of how to fix malzahar, one of which was to make his W an charge system like his old passive, or more like kass E in this case. Then you got basically exactly what i had said, except keeping true tot he name they still refuse to change it from a "swarm" of voidlings smh.

Joxcab1 votes

This has almost nothing to do with Boards specifically though. The Boards could literally not exist and almost every single one of those changes, if not all of them, would still have been made for the most part.

They were legitimate issues in high-tier play and/or pro play which is why they got nerfs after enough reason was given to them, Boards or no Boards.

But yeah whining about Riot not doing stuff is stupid as fuck.

Psyrix1 votes

The most obvious thing that proves Riot does actually listen to the community is the QOL changes, even now they are looking into adding a "warded" ping

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