Why Veigar's Ult Needs To Be Replaced

DrCabes··3 votes·1,097 views

Reason #1: It restricts Veigar

Riot can't currently buff him too much because of the extra ap ratio from his opponents ap. Having a Veigar be able to burst ad champions as well as simply press R on ap champions would make him overpowered. This restricts his ability to do damage in general at the price of having a cheesy ability to kill the enemy ap carry with, providing you get the opportunity. In my opinion, I would rather see Veigar be able to play against all types of champions instead of only ap ones. Yes, he can burst all squishy champs, but not until late game.

Reason #2: It doesn't work with his current kit

This one is more debatable but Veigar's kit is based on stunning and killing the target. Right now he can't stun and his ult doesn't deal enough damage to compensate for not being able to land his W. Therefor this makes ult not nearly as useful as it should be.

Reason #3: It's not exactly "healthy"

Having an ability that scales off of another champions power is just really cheesy in my opinion. While its kinda fair for Veigar given how weak he is right now, it's also not fair to punish another champion for building ap.

Reason #4: Veigar loses to a lot of ap champions now

You can't kill'em if you can't stun'em... Until 45 minutes in where you can just press R, but is that worth it?

A completely new ult for Veigar could give him the boost he currently needs and new healthy identity that would make him fun to play and fair to play against.

My idea: (Wont happen but seems like a cool thing to think about)

Give him leblanc's ult. Of course this wouldn't actually happen because Riot wouldn't give two champions the same ultimate but its an idea. Two E's gives Veigar a better opportunity to stun a target and better defensive abilities as well. Two W's would make up for the burst lost from his ult. Two Q's would allow him to win trades in lane. All these things are still counterable and it provides more options for Veigar.

That's just my idea. Let me know if you agree that his ult should change or not and feel free to drop some ideas. The title of this post should probably say "Why Veiger's ult should/could change, but the important thing is that something happens to boost Veigar up from the slump he's in now, it doesn't necessarily have to be his ult.

4 Comments

Ariaflux1 votes

Never gonna happen but imagine him with Ogre Magi's ult. Passive quad cast :D

Quad Q is 1040 (+240% AP) Quad W is 1280 (+400% AP)

Worst Mid Ever1 votes

if you change his ult he isn't Veigar anymore, I'd rather him be deleted since all that would be left is his lore and theme, both of which are garbage compared to the newer champions

DrCabes1 votes

The change to his E already got rid of the old Veigar we all knew. All that's left is his lore and theme yes but there's still potential in that. The insta-burst Veigar we knew probably won't be coming back so he needs a new identity that works and being just a cheesy anti-ap pick for only the late game just doesn't cut it.

Player of Games1 votes

As a longtime Veigar player, I wouldn't mind his enemy AP scaling ratio to be halved in return for W or E buffs. It's not the healthiest ult, but he needs it right now.

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