Am i the only one who thinks the last ryze rework wasnt a failure

koshkyra·Mar 25, 2018·3 votes·435 views

I dont understand why people always say he needs another rework. Yes he has a shit winrate in soloQ while maintaining a godlike status in the lcs and challenger, but thats only because he has one of the highest skillcaps in the game that almost noone is willing to learn.

If you've ever laned against a m7 ryze one-trick you would see that he knows his shit and you cant fight him because he will just outplay you with his combos and kiting.

Stop taking the first-time ryzes in soloq who dont even know what his abilities do as examples for why "ryze needs another VGU."

5 Comments

Trash MammaIMar 25, 20183 votes

His kit is literally just ASKING him to mash buttons until something dies, how is that a skillcap at all, esp one of the highest in the game?

His Q gets refreshed everytime he E's His W is a point and click snare His E is a point and click nuke that spreads if used on another target His Ult is probably one of the most niche abilities in the game

The dude is almost as brainless as garen, there's no thought process behind using Ryze at all.

Also he's shit because unless you somehow get fed in the first 10 minutes you are going to do 0 damage until like 50 minutes in when you get items

RenownedWheat42Mar 25, 20183 votes

There's a proper order to using his abilities depending on what you want.

DPS? QEQWQEQ. Shielding? EWQ/WEQ Strong root into damage? EQWQ

Q does get refreshed on both W and E, yes. Without it he has essentially no damage potential. W is a point-and-click snare but it's also pretty short range and requires his E to be used effectively. E is not a nuke. It's pretty small damage all around. The damage from E comes from amped Overload (Q). Yes it spreads to nearby targets, which is the effect of casting E on a dead target or a target already affected by flux. Ult is niche but has its uses, sure.

Ryze is pretty far from brainless. If you go in playing him like it seems you think he's played then you're just going to contribute to his low winrate.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERMar 25, 20183 votes

Point and click root is high skill cap? Lol

Only reason he’s picked in pro is because of his ability to dominate side lanes while staying safe.

Get Ogre HereMar 25, 20182 votes

It's not just that. I'll be playing in silver and he's still mind-numbingly annoying to play against with his dumb root that lets him get a guaranteed Q off 'n stuff. Ans the fact that he's trash in solo Q ans OP in lcs is a problem whether it's the players or the champion because Riot can't balance him in any way because he'll either be OP in solo Q trash in lcs or the other way around.