Can we give zed an actual weakness already

freepointzs··9 votes·923 views

The idea of giving an assassin manaless waveclear was an idiotic concept and is the main reason why zed is completely overbearing when strong.

There are no drawbacks to playing zed. He either has the lane advantage and can constantly kill you in lane to get fed. Sitting back and trying to farm is not an option since he can poke you out of lane and zone you away with the threat of an all in. And when he hits 6 you can forget about even participating in lane since he can easily tower dive you, kill you, and than blink back safely.

But I guess that's fine since a lot of assassin mains are adament that being able to kill things easily is a core tenant of their design.

But than where is the risk? If by some miracle I manage to have a favourable lane matchup vs zed I cannot zone him. He can safely farm from far away with no mana restrictions. Furtheremore he waveclears extremely well. So the lane matchup dynamics is I either get annihilated and the zed snowballs or we settle for a stalemate where we go even in farm.

Thats asinine. If my best case scenario is I dont get steamrolled than you know theres a problem with a champion. Atleast when Im facing an akali or fizz I can zone them from cs if I get a lane advantage. If your going to pick an assassin and have the ability to obliterate champions instantaneously than you should be high risk and high reward.

Zed is low risk and high reward. He has so many tools in his kit that allows him to stay relevant in a game while also being overbearing if ahead. Give him some actual weaknesses so that theres an actual decision towards when you should pick zed. He should be a flex pick that excels in certain matchups. Right now its just auto pick him and proceed to dominate because your kit happens to be so forgiving for someone with his play making potential

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Talamare7 votes

Zed has weaknesses, for example since he as such insanely powerful waveclear the mana cost for it is really high... oh wait thats Talon Well, at least his primary single target nuke and his wave clear are 2 different abilities... oh wait thats also Talon But when you think about it, his passive only provides a small amount of extremely situational damage ... ah crap I'm thinking of Talon again

Kitten of Evil1 votes

I lol'd.

freepointzs3 votes

talon isn't as flashy as zed so they get balanced differently. For another example of this, see lee sin.

Keltulis3 votes

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talon isn't as flashy as zed so they get balanced differently. For another example of this, see lee sin.

lay off the weed dude; then revise your thread.

Junkο2 votes

To be fair Talon can burst you down without letting you react... oh wait they removed his silence Well at least he snowballs harder cause of his AoE damage... wait...

RIP Talon, RIP the champion that replaced Zed as my main after a friend gifted me him

Juggernaut6284 votes

Stop complaining about assassins. Try to not 1v1 them and maybe you would kill them. Zed is easy to kill all u do is not run around half the map when he has a shadow since he can return to it. Just fight him since he doesn't do that much damage until he gets a few items.

SEKAI3 votes

People shouldn't 1v1 "assassins"? Aren't assassins meant to die (or at least attempt to escape) when they get caught?

See the problem there?

SEKAI2 votes

Maybe giving him as an energy champion actual energy costs, same with that other guy who also uses energy. While cutting down some of their random free stats they got for no apparent reason to why they even have it.

You know that Would be nice.

Junkο1 votes

He actually has energy costs, they are just not noticeable because his W regenerates so much energy if you hit an ability twice

ForgiveColour1 votes

Assassin shouldnt have wave clear

But we're fine giving mages everything bcus they uses #mana

DrMarshSwamp1 votes

What about giving his Shadow's Shurikens and Slash reduced damage against minions?

Juggernaut6281 votes

Or reduced damage to champions?

Chespin20131 votes

Every champ has weaknesses zed is weak to swain, vel'koz is weak to talon, udyr is weak to vi. EVERY CHAMP HAS A WEAKNESS SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT AND LEARN TO HOW TO COUNTER THEM

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