Better Nerf More Items, Right?
Note:
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Rito and logic just don't mix. Every item is best stacked together than standalone. Even currently,
combined with a
or
is better than by itself.
is better stacked with
than by itself.
Stacking any item with HP is good because HP is a universally useful stat.
If you want to talk about armor items, specifically. Let's look at actual champions who tend to build armor items. Go to any site where there are statistics on champion item builds and look at the strongest/most popular build. Alternatively: watch any League of Legends game ever.
- Supports?
tend to be the popular "standalone" item of choice for most support champions. Why is that? - Bruisers and Fighters?
seems to be the armor item of choice if they get ANY armor item. If they ever do build
it's usually as late game 5th or 6th item purchase. Some mana-hungry or CDR-reliant bruisers like
might even go
first instead of
as their first major armor item purchase. Why do you think that is? - Mages?
is the most popular armor item for mages and once in a while you might see a
. Does that make these items oppressive and "too strong standalone"? - Assassins? They don't tend to build armor, but when they do, it's usually in only ONE of their item slots (two tops). Which of the following armor items is an assassin MOST LIKELY to build as a "standalone" armor item?
. I'll give you a hint: it's not
. - ADCs? You seldom see them build armor, but when they do it's typically in their 5th or 6th item slot and is their only defensive item. Which of the following armor items are you most likely to see on an ADC?
Hint: it's not 
- Tanks? Any tank that is mana-hungry or CDR-reliant will get
first. Do they eventually get
? Yes. But no tank purchases
early or by itself and thinks "welp I guess I've got all the armor I need against a 39% armor pen 750-damage crit ADC time to only buy non-armor items now." No competent or intelligent person ever thinks or says this because it's simply idiotic. - What about tanks who don't use mana or don't really need that much CDR? Examples:
. Which of the following 4 armor items are you MOST LIKELY to see on them, if they have ANY armor items?
. I'll give you a hint: it's not 
So where the fuck does this notion that
is a "major outlier item" because it's an effective "standalone" armor item come from? Just based on math, popular/strong builds, and raw stats, it's much easier to make the case that
,
,
,
,
, or even
are better "standalone" armor items than
. I would actually rank
as precisely the WORST standalone armor item (except for maybe
because it's a shitty item by design).
I personally think that
is the best "standalone" armor item because 70 armor + 500 HP gives more physical damage (but also true damage and magic damage) survivability than ANY other armor items. There's a reason why so many different roles build it.
So pls, Rito: don't fucking insult our intelligence by trying to justify the
NERFS (yes, they are general across-the-board nerfs) by arguing that it's too effective as a "standalone armor item." That is utterly false. There isn't a single data point or math calculation you can make to back that up. The reason you are nerfing
is because it's almost time for Worlds and you don't want those "boring wet-noodle fights" to put everyone to sleep. You want to nerf tanks back into non-viability so your flashy #LC$BIGPLAY$ champions dominate ONCE AGAIN like you ALWAYS DO. Is it any coincidence that
and
are receiving buffs in the SAME FUCKING PATCH?
Just admit what you're doing. Don't pretend like it's overall for the best health of the game. You have clear champion and playstyle favoritism and this has resonated since the existence of this game. The 5.16 armor item nerfs are completly uncalled for and will singlehandedly undo ALL progress made this entire season in bringing tanks back to relevance again.
**TL;DR: Rito is COMPLETELY full of shit and fucking liars. **