you could cut her damage in half and she would still be strong, how has riot done next to nothing to work on how much damage zoe does? i saw her literally one shot an ADC with a Q, when it hit the cannon minion in front of them. If you cut that in half, thats still 50% of their HP in one ability, which is insane.
vgamedude3 votesIf you cut her damage in half she would be useless. It's hard to hit your q without first landing an e which has been nerfed what, twice now? She doesn't even have a good win rate and she is very difficult to play.
Right click adc heroes will have far more damage done at the end of a game than Zoe 9 times out of 10 and are far more reliable in their form of damage.
Nyarlathοtep3 votes53.08% WR doesnt doesnt seem bad wr you know. As for her difficult on playing her, yeah lets just say that her difficult isnt what you make it sound of. 1st time playing? You might have here and there some problems. After that she is easy or rather, nothing intensely difficult.
vgamedude1 votes53.08% WR doesnt doesnt seem bad wr you know. As for her difficult on playing her, yeah lets just say that her difficult isnt what you make it sound of. 1st time playing? You might have here and there some problems. After that she is easy or rather, nothing intensely difficult.
Lmao even casters who constantly cry that she's op acknowledge she is difficult to play. You can watch experienced players in competitive messing up her skillshots, even faker the other day when he picked her was choking early and that's after playing loads of her in solo Q.
And where in the world does she have a 53 percent winrate? Checking champ gg which is multiple regions not just Korea and filtering to plat plus she's at 50.50%.
Succubús GF1 votesChampion.gg is not reliable at ALL http://www.op.gg/champion/zoe/statistics/mid This is through every region I believe, if not, then it's just one
Dope Solo1 votesNerfing her damage, which is a no brainer for being overkill and too high, isn't necessarily going to reduce her win rate signficantly. I'm most definitely willing to bring it down to Earth and then buff it in small increments if it really needs it (it doesn't).
Krytoric2 votesIf you cut her damage in half she would be useless. It's hard to hit your q without first landing an e which has been nerfed what, twice now? She doesn't even have a good win rate and she is very difficult to play.
Right click adc heroes will have far more damage done at the end of a game than Zoe 9 times out of 10 and are far more reliable in their form of damage.
she requires literally no skill, i dont understand how people like you can defend that champion, she has insane range, she gets rewarded for MISSING her CC, he cc gives double damage, she has just flat insane damage, insane mobility, very low cds, low mana costs, free sheen in her kit and free summoners / items. It doesnt matter if you miss 30 q's in lane, if you land one the person has to back. There's multiple videos of Zoe landing a Q and 1 shotting people, hell i even have 2 of her hitting minions, and still one shotting the person, i saw her kill my ADC with a SINGLE Q, she came from behind the tower, we saw her for 0.5 seconds, and she cleared the wave and one shot my ADC, with a s i n g l e Q, even if the ability did half damage, thats still 50% of their HP with one ability.
It's appalling that people actually think Zoe is balanced.
vgamedude1 votesshe requires literally no skill, i dont understand how people like you can defend that champion, she has insane range, she gets rewarded for MISSING her CC, he cc gives double damage, she has just flat insane damage, insane mobility, very low cds, low mana costs, free sheen in her kit and free summoners / items. It doesnt matter if you miss 30 q's in lane, if you land one the person has to back. There's multiple videos of Zoe landing a Q and 1 shotting people, hell i even have 2 of her hitting minions, and still one shotting the person, i saw her kill my ADC with a SINGLE Q, she came from behind the tower, we saw her for 0.5 seconds, and she cleared the wave and one shot my ADC, with a s i n g l e Q, even if the ability did half damage, thats still 50% of their HP with one ability.
It's appalling that people actually think Zoe is balanced.
Lmao she takes no skill? Okay bud better tell the pros they are trash when they miss her skillshots.
Theres videos of her one shotting an ezreal with NO MR that's two levels below her and underfed in competitive while she's fed. That's just something else.
An adc that far ahead will do similar with autos that require zero effort to land.
Krytoric1 votesLmao she takes no skill? Okay bud better tell the pros they are trash when they miss her skillshots.
Theres videos of her one shotting an ezreal with NO MR that's two levels below her and underfed in competitive while she's fed. That's just something else.
An adc that far ahead will do similar with autos that require zero effort to land.
Name one other champion that literally one shots, with one ability, just from being 2 levels up on someone with no resistances.
the argument that shes trash / pros suck when they miss skillshots is so stupid it hurts, Tanks suck without tank stats, ADC's suck if they dont auto and kite. I'm not even saying the pros are trash, idk where you got that from, obviously abilities suck if you dont land them, but her abilities are easy as hell to land and there's no real outplay potential to being one shot from out of vision without stacking mr and even then, she still chunks tanks lol.
An ADC wouldn't literally o n e shot someone, there's no risk for an insanely high reward on that champ, you cant actually justify a champion one shotting someone without being insane.
but okay there "bud" LUL
vgamedude1 votesName one other champion that literally one shots, with one ability, just from being 2 levels up on someone with no resistances.
the argument that shes trash / pros suck when they miss skillshots is so stupid it hurts, Tanks suck without tank stats, ADC's suck if they dont auto and kite. I'm not even saying the pros are trash, idk where you got that from, obviously abilities suck if you dont land them, but her abilities are easy as hell to land and there's no real outplay potential to being one shot from out of vision without stacking mr and even then, she still chunks tanks lol.
An ADC wouldn't literally o n e shot someone, there's no risk for an insanely high reward on that champ, you cant actually justify a champion one shotting someone without being insane.
but okay there "bud" LUL
I'd rather get hit with a q that has a cool down and has to actually be aimed than the equivelent damage from an adc that far ahead with two or three autos that I can't dodge and that can't miss.
Krytoric1 votesyou are blatantly ignoring the fact that ADC doesnt do as much damage, in the full game? totally! thats the ADC' job, but getting literally one shot from out of vision, from a low cd, low mana cost, insane damage and insane range, makes no sense, you cant even defend it, your "responses" have meant nothing LOL.
but keep being a part of the ADC hate circle jerk there lad.
vgamedude1 votesyou are blatantly ignoring the fact that ADC doesnt do as much damage, in the full game? totally! thats the ADC' job, but getting literally one shot from out of vision, from a low cd, low mana cost, insane damage and insane range, makes no sense, you cant even defend it, your "responses" have meant nothing LOL.
but keep being a part of the ADC hate circle jerk there lad.
I can LITERALLY dodge it or avoid it. I cant avoid a Kog Maw with three items doing the same thing with 3 autos that he cant even miss.
I know for certain which one I'd rather face.
Krytoric1 votesyeah you can dodge it! if you can see it coming and if the zoe has a brain, you dont see it lol.
Zoe can next to one shot someone with half an item, you said kog needs 3 items, yeah i know which one id rather face lol
vgamedude1 votesyeah you can dodge it! if you can see it coming and if the zoe has a brain, you dont see it lol.
Zoe can next to one shot someone with half an item, you said kog needs 3 items, yeah i know which one id rather face lol
next to one shot? Nope especially not if you have literally any mr. Kog is more effective in fights just with rageblade.
Krytoric1 votesi have a video of a Zoe hitting a minion wave infront of my support with only a lost chapter and killing the Karma at about 50% Hp, so yeah, next to one shotting.
And you said 3 items, Kog is effective if he gets the rageblade stacks and is left alone, theres 3 items you can get to counter him tho.
EDIT: so the karma was at about 70% hp, the E hit from out of vision, took them to like 55%-50% the she hit the MINIONS but the aoe killed the support, and we saw zoe for probably half a second.
CppL2 votesyes ,we already know that.
The Minion hunt2 votesclearly u don't just run up and stand beside her. ever try that. bam countered.
d3vcho1 votesI kind of agree with you... The thing with Zoe is that she requires a lot of skills to control her, both for farming and for team battles. A miscalculation or misclick and you'll be useless in that fight. We saw it yesterday when Faker used Zoe in the last match of the LCK.
xGunna11 votesGL she is considered by Riot a burst mage
and a burst mage will always deals a lot of damage so suggesting to nerf her dmg will not be accepted but giving her long cooldowns or mana costs is the way to go
and her Q cooldown increased by 1 sec all ranks in pbe now
xelaker1 votesIncoming zoe fanatics to tell you how bad you must be to not dodge every ability slung at you in a game.
Kirius Dark1 votesAll her abilities need to have their mana increased by about 20% so she cant just free spam everything nonstop.
Alternatively, make it even MORE expensive than that but have some mana refund when she hits a champ so poke spam and missing is actually punishing