Probably unpopular opinion but Amumu has received a lot of indirect nerfs this preseason.

iTaLenTZ··1 votes·703 views

I am biased because I main Amumu but lately (4-6 weeks) I haven't played him much because he just doesn't feel so strong any more compared to other champs. The trade-off of pikcing Amumu is that you have a bad early and good scaling into mid-lategame but this isn't very true any more.

Earlygame

  • Generally pretty bad. Very gated by mana. Also smite doesn't give mana any more.
  • It has become harder for him to do the buffs on his own. The little guys gave him cdr on his E.
  • He can't contest the sustain plant because earlygame he will get rekt by almost every champ. He is also bad at killing the crab.
  • He doesn't benefit at all from the cunning tree. He is AoE so he doesn't take Savagery, with the loss of smite buffs Runic Affinity has become useless and if you want 5% extra damage below 40% HP you are better of using the Ferocity Tree where you can get 5% extra damage always.
  • The Resolve Tree is pretty underwhelming for him as well. You only go deep to get CotC. You don't even want Veteran Scar because the 8% bonus shield is better and he doens't even have a shield in his kit. This mastery has become pointless. Also he doesn't have sustain and there isn't much to choice from pretty straightforward.
  • Smite has become a pretty underwhelming Summoner Spell. For what it provides its cooldown is way too high.
  • He has a comparative advantage for farming wraiths and golems. But the downside is he will have less lane presence.

Midgame

  • Still very gated by mana. It is hard for him to farm and gank at the same time.
  • He can only make 1 successful gank at lv 6 and has to wait 150s for his next successful gank.
  • He lost a lot of HP. Strength of ages + Nerfs to Rylai = 400 HP --> x 1,15 from Cinderhulk = 460 HP less. Also Rylai is one of his core items and the buildpath straight out sucks now. He can't buy Giant Belt any more to provide the much needed early HP to cover for everything he has lost.
  • He lost damage. Scepter changed, Rylai nerfed, Blue doesn't give AP any more and Gromp buff is gone.
  • Abyssal Scepter doesn't benefit him much any more. 10% extra magic damage =/= 25 Mpen. Amumu only buys Rylai and Liandry for AP and relies on his base damage not his scaling. Therefore the 10% bonus damage is much worse on him than Mpen. +/- Don't need to explain Courage of the Colossus can be strong on him but it is situational. Its only strong when his ult is up and when he is close to a lot of enemies. You have these odd situations where you engaged on a champ with your Q but don't want to ult already but because you used your Q you triggered CotC and then within 30s you proceed to teamfight and ult and it is on cooldown and you just lost a big shield. Therefore I don't like this mastery very much.
  • He still struggles to build mana/cdr. I think the best items for him are item 3110 item 3025 item 3060 but you don't want them every game.

Lategame

  • Is AP bruiser build has been nerfed really hard and has become unviable. I think every AP jungler is struggling nowadays.
  • Lategame Tanks are weak by definition because they get 3 shotted by adc's.
  • You end up being a walking ultimate that doesn't bring anything else to the team.

So Amumu got hit pretty hard with the recent changes these are facts. I recall Riot even mentioned he was a candidate for buffs prior to Worlds because he sees no play in competitive but he was ruled out because he was too strong in SoloQ, and especially lower eelos to receive buffs. Well at this moment he has definitely become weaker so it would be nice if he could gain some benefits from either

Some ideas

  • Changes/ Buffs to Resolve/Cunning Tree that benefit him and in general AP jungler more.
  • Revert his last nerfs to his E
  • Give him a bigger manapool
  • Introduce a new item for AP bruisers that gives mana/HP/cdr
  • Buff Cinderhulk to +25% HP
  • Make Giant Belt a recipe for Rylai again.
  • Revert changes
  • Smite gives mana and lower cdr

10 Comments

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

Generally pretty bad. Very gated by mana. Also smite doesn't give mana any more.

Smite only ever provided mana if you smited Blue Buff. Generally, junglers would save their smite for something more useful.

It has become harder for him to do the buffs on his own. The little guys gave him cdr on his E.

Honestly, I prefer maxing W on Amumu so I haven't really noticed a difference.

with the loss of smite buffs Runic Affinity has become useless

IIRC, Runic Affinity never affected Smite buffs. It affected buffs from Baron, Rift Herald, Elder Dragon, Red Buff and Blue Buff and that has not changed.

The Resolve Tree is pretty underwhelming for him as well. You only go deep to get CotC. You don't even want Veteran Scar because the 8% bonus shield is better and he doens't even have a shield in his kit. This mastery has become pointless. Also he doesn't have sustain and there isn't much to choice from pretty straightforward.

Runic Armor amplifies healing from potions, Hunter's Talisman and killing a jungle camp.

Still very gated by mana. It is hard for him to farm and gank at the same time.

You shouldn't be having many mana issues if you aren't using Q to clear when you don't have blue buff. If you are having mana issues, purchase Hunter's Potion for additional mana (and health) sustain.

He can only make 1 successful gank at lv 6 and has to wait 150s for his next successful gank.

Ganks without his ultimate are less potent, but still rather powerful if you land his Q.

Also Rylai is one of his core items and the buildpath straight out sucks now. He can't buy Giant Belt any more to provide the much needed early HP to cover for everything he has lost.

The components provide less health, but the completed item (which you want for the slow) is cheaper and the components are simpler to purchase (don't have to save up 1250G for Needlessly Large Rod).

He still struggles to build mana/cdr. I think the best items for him are but you don't want them every game.

You can get away without building mana until late-game. If you are having issues itemizing CDR, you could probably use some scaling CDR Glyphs and/or Quints.

Frozen Heart and Abyssal Scepter are probably your best options for CDR.

Is AP bruiser build has been nerfed really hard and has become unviable. I think every AP jungler is struggling nowadays.

Cinderhulk, Rylai's Crystal Scepter and Liandry's Torment generally provide sufficient damage for him to threaten the enemy team. While he might not burst someone down, he deals a lot of sustained damage so long as he remains alive.

Lategame Tanks are weak by definition because they get 3 shotted by adc's.

Ninja Tabi and Randuin's Omen (or Frozen Heart) are great options to prevent this from happening. While you will still die eventually, you will deal respectable damage before doing so and absorb a lot of damage.

If you feel like it, Skirmisher's Sabre can let you survive against the enemy ADC far more easily.

IMO, his main issue is probably that many meta junglers (i.e. Hecarim, Lee Sin, Vi) are better gankers and duelists than he is. While he is strong in the mid- and late-game, certain junglers can abuse him in his jungle and snowball the game against him.

Dolasaur1 votes

You saved me 20 minutes of typing exactly what you did. Normally I'd just upvote and move on, but... it's like I read this, then traveled back in time to tell myself to write exactly this, and then saw it already posted by you. <3

iTaLenTZ1 votes

I do agree with your conclusion but not with everything you said.

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

Amumu has received a lot of indirect nerfs this preseason.

good

Leo10241 votes

he's still pretty strong tbh, especially since he's really easy, take it from me, i'm complete ass at jg, i can't play elise or rengar for the life of me but amumu is so easy to gank and farms with tbh

Eedat1 votes

Amumu doesnt need buffs. He floated around a 55% win rate for like 2 full years without being noticed. Although he might not be quite as good in the new Jungle, he still does just fine

Chef Mumu1 votes

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Amumu doesnt need buffs. He floated around a 55% win rate for like 2 full years without being noticed. Although he might not be quite as good in the new Jungle, he still does just fine

If you say that Amumu doesnt need buffs cause he's been floating around 55% win rate for like 2 full years how come after this pre season out of the sudden he's nowhere to be found in those rating lists cause his win rate is now far below average?

I main amumu with over 200+ matches last 3 seasons and all of the sudden i can't perform decent in any of my matches. I feel the nerfs in all my matches up to the point i desided to no longer play amumu cause he's so heavy nerfed he's not even a decent pick anymore. let alone the fact he was a strong pick before this season.

Im 100% sure Amumu need buffs and he will get those soon enough.

Lugg1 votes

I play the sad mummy and I don't think he is any weaker at all this season compared to previous ones.

iTaLenTZ1 votes

The game is too snowball and before you get 6 the enemy jungler already won botlane and another lane or made your life miserable in the jungle.

Lugg1 votes

If your bot lane gets ganked pre-6, it's solely their fault and not due to an early game jungler. They shouldn't have pushed up in lane if they didn't have vision.

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