I love lee sins undodgable ult Q combo.

YoungFarmer·Nov 12, 2016·2 votes·748 views

He just kicks you and then Qs and you can't dodge it. you just die.

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Dominick DestineNov 12, 20164 votes

Riot: "Hidden power is bad" (Proceeds to give Lee an ultimate with a snare, knockback, stun (Unaffected by tenacity) and AoE damage) Riot: trollface

VoidStaresBackNov 12, 20161 votes

That... isn't the definition of hidden power as Riot uses it, that's just the power it has in it.

Dominick DestineNov 12, 20162 votes

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That... isn't the definition of hidden power

The other person that commented literally didn't know that Lee's ult did these things. I am willing to bet most players don't either; It is not in the description or implied in any way at all.

It's a straight-up broken ult that Riot keeps this way for some reason.

VoidStaresBackNov 12, 20161 votes

I knew all of those things: the stun is inherent to displacement, if you hit a wall then yes afterwards you are still stunned for the remaining duration of the knockback since you're still in the knockback state, and the root if I'm remembering correctly was a bugfix for some issue or another with his ult. HIdden power is more along the lines of Fizz's old w passive, where you didn't know exactly how much damage it would deal to you since it dealt damage over time based on %missing health, or aura effects like Taric's old W passive or the old Aegis passive, where they have an effect you can't actually see. All of those effects of Lee Sin's are very visible and understandable and thus not hidden power (besides the wall thing, that's kinda weird and should be clarified in some way or another if it isn't already).

Wind WhistlerNov 12, 20161 votes

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The other person that commented literally didn't know that Lee's ult did these things. I am willing to bet most players don't either; It is not in the description or implied in any way at all.

It's a straight-up broken ult that Riot keeps this way for some reason.

The reason is because they have a boner for Lee Sin. Just like Lux and possibly Renekton.

AFK PushNov 12, 20161 votes

Enlighten me how they have a boner for the self ccing croc top?

Wind WhistlerNov 12, 20161 votes

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Enlighten me how they have a boner for the self ccing croc top?

They've stated that they WANT him to be oppressive in lane. Also, continuous buffs. He's not exactly overpowered right now like Lee Sin is, but he's relatively close.

AFK PushNov 12, 20161 votes

He is supposed to be a lane bully, and they're keeping him that way. For that to happen he has to "opressive," but don't act like shit like Illaoi Darius is healthier for the game. Renekton doesn't have a strong winrate right now, meaning he isn't that oppressive after all. No LCS big flashy plays champ can be compared to Renekton, because they love champs like Lee because they make the pro scene "more interesting to watch." Renekton is barely ever picked in competitive.

Edit: and the buffs that he got were because he wasn't doing his job effectively as a lane bully, so they buffed his passive, W because of the self stun being too long, and more damage on his R's aoe isn't much. None of these buffs make him op trust me he is my most played champ.

Chamuel85Nov 12, 20161 votes

Isn't his ult just a knockback? Pretty sure it doesn't snare... and knockbacks just stun by their definition

Dominick DestineNov 12, 20162 votes

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Isn't his ult just a knockback? Pretty sure it doesn't snare.

You'd be mistaken on both counts.

It is this sequence; Snare ---> Knockback/Stun ---> Stun (Unaffected by tenacity)

Chamuel85Nov 12, 20161 votes

hoo man (checked wikia) ... it does root WHY does it root??? lol

Dominick DestineNov 12, 20162 votes

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hoo man (checked wikia) ... it does root WHY does it root??? lol

Because LC$ BIG PLAYZ

AstôlfoNov 12, 20162 votes

Because it's a targeted ability but the ability itself has an animation delay. No root means you could walk out or flash out or whatever, but you still got kicked the moment he casted his R. It just doesn't actually happen until you get kicked. Which would look really bizarre and mess things up if you had moved around.

Dominick DestineNov 12, 20162 votes

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No root means you could walk out

You cannot walk out of targeted knockbacks (Ex: Alistar).

In fact, Lee's ult originally did not root, knockback/stun, stun. It was buffed to be the abomination that it is now.

AstôlfoNov 12, 20161 votes

Ali's knockback also doesn't have anywhere as near of a long of an animation time.

Dominick DestineNov 12, 20162 votes

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Ali's knockback also doesn't have anywhere as near of a long of an animation time.

Alistar's knockback has travel time.

Not that it matters given that literally every other knockback in the game aside from Lee's ult does not have a triple disable combination on a point-and-click.

Brain Errör 404Nov 12, 20162 votes

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Alistar's knockback has travel time.

Not that it matters given that literally every other knockback in the game aside from Lee's ult does not have a triple disable combination on a point-and-click.

Tripe disable? Lol.... Alistar's and Lee Sin's knockback does the exact same thing. One just hurts more. If you've never noticed, if Alistar knocks you back, you won't be able to move for at least 0.5 seconds, the same is said for Lee's. So please, stop taking things out of proportion.

Dominick DestineNov 12, 20162 votes

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Tripe disable?

Yep. Do you deny reality?

Brain Errör 404Nov 12, 20161 votes

I do. You can flash/dash the kick before he does it and it throws off the direction of the kick. You then fly in an animated state, which you can count as a disable, and are held in place for a short duration. There's like a 0.002 second snare at the beginning of the kick, however, I know that it isn't really a disable because I've dodged Lee kick animations that reset his cooldown on the skill.

So it's a double disable, not triple. The only thing you're seeing is the starting of the knock back effect and because of how Lee's kick is set up, it's a pre-status effect for balancing reasons.

Dominick DestineNov 12, 20163 votes

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You can flash/dash the kick

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Wind WhistlerNov 12, 20161 votes

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Isn't his ult just a knockback? Pretty sure it doesn't snare... and knockbacks just stun by their definition

It's not exactly a stun. You just can't do anything before you're kicked. Like, say a Lee Sin uses his ult on you. For a brief moment, right before you're kicked, you can't use any abilities or spells. It doesn't actually count as a stun though. I don't know what the hell it is. It sucks, though. That's for sure.

Wind WhistlerNov 12, 20161 votes

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Riot: "Hidden power is bad" (Proceeds to give Lee an ultimate with a snare, knockback, stun (Unaffected by tenacity) and AoE damage) Riot: trollface

Riot's favorite pokemon is probably Unown.

AstôlfoNov 12, 20161 votes

And.... why are you in his extremely short-range ultimate cast range in the first place?

GULAG 4 UNov 12, 20161 votes

Flash+W anyways. It's not like lee sin isn't mobile.

AstôlfoNov 12, 20161 votes

W only works to a ward, an allied champion, or an allied unit. The latter 2 really shouldn't ever matter. Wardhops are counterable through just warding the surroundings itself so you can see him trying to loop around a wall for a ward jump.