Can we make yasuos windwall only absorb projectiles from the front.

YoungFarmer··183 votes·5,473 views

I feel like it would be a fairly fair nerf. Its kind of fucking dumb when a yasuo panic wind walls and throws it side ways and it still absorbs your projectiles -_-

Edit: was just playing annie, I threw my Q at yas he throws his windwall in the opposite direction of my Q right when my Q hits him and it absorbed it lol

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Velzard of Koz3 votes

Why is it called bug? With how Riot treats the Windwall I'd call it working as intended.

DrCyanide9 votes

It's pointed completely backwards!

Imagine any other skillshot being aimed completely backwards and doing its intended job perfectly. It can negate so much of a champions kit, all we're asking for is him to aim half as well as the rest of us.

I personally think Wind Wall should form on the line he draws, not the center of his model.

Bolwinkel3 votes

The wall starts BEHIND yasuo, much like Azir's ultimate does. However, he should have take some damage you would think.

Fly Fish Master2 votes

Yasuo doesn't take dmg because he is basically immune to projectiles during the beginning of the animation. The reason Riot hasn't "fixed" this (by fix I mean change) is because of spaghetti code. The wall itself is programmed as minions that block the projectile.

InfernoFøx15 votes

Think of it like this. A wall works both ways. So anyone with some form of barrier: Anivia Azir Taliyah Trundle that should be in effect for them too. It wouldnt be fair to have a wall that only works one way. Also his wall has a higher CD. So if you let it run out then you can spam your abilities on him all you want. A lot of point and click engages work well on him (Nautilus Maokai Pantheon Malphite Kennen Skarner Vi) And more over a panic wall is more of a reflex thing. Kinda like flashing out of an ability only its a wall. If you could shoot through one side of his wall then it wouldnt be much of a wall would it? Im just trying to give perspective

Ratbert57 votes

Except it's a wall made of winds pushing in one direction. If anything projectiles going through backwards should move twice as fast.

InfernoFøx11 votes

-_- dude its just supposed to be a wall. try not to overthink it

Princess Emma19 votes

I wouldn't necessarily call it completely overthinking it. What he said was true.

A solid wall would stop something approaching from all directions (Anivia Taliyah), but a single wall made out of wind would only move at one direction at a time, and could only block what is coming in the direction it is blowing (unless it were to be going in a peculiar direction like upwards).

I am not for or against them making any changes to Yasuo's windwall however.

InfernoFøx10 votes

Ok. Then if we are going with that logic, saying that Yasuo's windwall can only move in one direction. What would happen if the wall moves up. A continuous flow of air going straight up. Then how would that work. Anything that would be thrown at the wall would therefore go up with the wind right? Now i havnt really noticed this, but what direction does his wall flow at in game?

RISE Shlack1236 votes

Care to explain why Braum's wall only works in one direction, then?

MagosAmphrose2 votes

Because Braum's 'wall' is him holding a his giant shield in front of him in a defensive position. If you get behind him and shoot him with the power of a thousand suns on the shield, it'll do less than merely a trio of silver-plated bolts to the back.

RISE Shlack1233 votes

Yes, Braum is vulnerable from the rear, and that makes sense. BUT, projectiles still go through his shield and hit allies if fired from the rear. And that doesn't make sense either, since his shield is a solid wall.

InfernoFøx3 votes

Braum is behind the shield. So if someone shoots from behind, they are shooting Braum not the shield. And they dont call it a wall. Its a shield. It was originally a door in his lore. Not a wall. Then he made it is shield

MisterMessen3 votes

I think what he means is that when you shoot a targeted projectile, like a ranged auto-attack, from the rear of Braum, the attacks still goes through his wall and hits the intended target, which doesn't make sense with the reasoning we are doing right now.

Imperial Japan2 votes

Some people. sigh I wonder if people don't realize Yasuo's wind wall in fact DOES go upwards

RISE Shlack1231 votes

If you're going to be specific on the names of things, why don't Anivia & Taliyah walls block projectiles? I mean, that sounds ridiculous when we pair it up with your counter to my point.

The point is Braum's shield is designed to block projectiles, but it only works from the front. Why wouldn't Yasuo have the same skill requirement on his? And shields were designed as mini-walls. So, I mean, I don't understand your argument. It makes no sense, both thematically and literally.

Toplane Fencer3 votes

You can actually see the wind go upwards in the Yasuo windwall animation. So in that case it would block projectiles from both sides.

I am not for or against them making any changes to Yasuo's windwall however.

CeexSett2 votes

Well, the wind is actually going upwards, you can see it in the windwall. So, by Ratbert's point of view, it should block projectiles from both sides.

Vistha Kai3 votes

(unless it were to be going in a peculiar direction like upwards)

Which is the case for Yasuo's Windwall.

MrBuffington3 votes

Dude, what if, when Yasuo throws the windwall the wrong way, projectiles go through twice as fast instead of being blocked, and do increased damage to him/his teammates? Lmao

Kingnewgameplus1 votes

That clip pisses me off in ways you cannot imagine. And I don't even hate yas that much.

Arthimetes1 votes

How can't I imagine how much it pisses you off?

Im the Sej.

Communist Toast12 votes

I thought soraka's star (Q) would have went over it, as it falls out of the sky, but it seems that he can block that too

CeexSett2 votes

Soraka's Q falls from the sky rightly above of you, then descends in an angle to the enemies. It could ACTUALLY be blocked, but it would depend on the angle it is launched. I think that's too many mechanics for the code, so it's easier to just block it anyways.

Soraka main here, it is indeed annoying.

Kingnewgameplus1 votes

Windwall stops ziggs ult. Just sit on that for a second.

CeexSett1 votes

I love how a column of winds can block a huge-ass bomb from falling from the sky but Vel'Koz can still pass his arms through it to auto attack.

Atanchan1 votes

League is a 2D game visualized in 3D.

There is no part of getting Soraka Q past Windwall by angling it correctly that makes any sense whatsoever.

CeexSett1 votes

I said ACTUALLY, like in theory. In "real life", the star would fall in a an angle from the sky and the wall only has a certain height, so it could be possible for the star to pass over it.

Bladerunner777711 votes

I main Nami and even I don't complain this much about Yas windwall

Literally negates your entire kit but it's still possible to play around

I hate my ADC3 votes

So you are fine with your wave being destroyed even if you are standing hundred of units behind the wind wall?

Here, I even made you a picture: http://i.imgur.com/NQx7MAN.png

ThatHaleState7 votes

I agree that some sort of change needs to happen to the wall. Possibly and cap to the amount of projectiles it blocks per level in the ability would be nice. Because he is supposed to be a counter to the immobile mages, but being able to make an adc useless for 5 seconds is a little bullshit. Also, when he can just stand directly on top of it and it blocks everything is just obnoxious.

GULAG 4 U3 votes
  1. It's about 4 seconds

  2. Move around it... I mean seriously man...

Koala Frenzy6 votes

Instead of the thing making spells fizzle out, they should detonate on impact if they are aoe. Like ziggs Q should still explode, but on impact at the wall. Ensures that you can't just negate (some) entire champions by existing.

DunkinNoobs5 votes

Wall dancing is a huge part of Yasuo's skillcap and is how Yasuo is forced to deal with champs like Ahri, Lucian, Leblanc, etc.

Troll for Trump7 votes

Ah walldancing. Spamming e and q in the minionwave next to the wall. How difficult

Junkο5 votes

Except wall dancing is done by constantly kiting around wind wall and moving between AAs, not mindlessly spamming EQ.

invisiblecat15 votes

I hate how he can sit on the wall and be basically invincible

Maximum Morde4 votes

I just want them to change it to a fart animation.

NGNL Asian1 votes

You know, that's how many outplays are made. So sry, dumbs down

Dextix LT32 votes

"Outplays" by using the skill in the wrong direction.

It seems to me like its undeeded dumb down, you don't even have to aim the wall for it to work...

Nami in Bush1 votes

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"Outplays" by using the skill in the wrong direction.

It seems to me like its undeeded dumb down, you don't even have to aim the wall for it to work...

If you die to Yas you're bad, especially if he fucks up his wall.

CeexSett6 votes

If you die to Yasuo you're bad? Isn't he supposed to kill anyone?

Yaśuo Main2 votes

Well he has no mobile out of lane, so he's easy to kill when roaming...

But if he has more than 2 kills AKA jungler hasn't camped, you might risk of being outplayed.

Basically it's bad to die to a Yasuo who's been camped. (not if he's been camped after he got a kill)

CeexSett6 votes

He isn't "easy" to kill while roaming just because there are no minions. He is still a good duelist and can go toe to toe with many other duelists, unless he is too behind/enemy is too ahead.

Yaśuo Main2 votes

omg...

First of all, this is assuming you and JG are sticking together on killing him. I thought that was obvious enough.

Second of all, Playing someone like Lux, Leblanc, or Kat, it should be easy (at least for me) to wittle him down with pokes or maybe just bait out his windwall so you can hit him with brute force...

Third of all, you threw Jack at me at the last sentence. Duelist whatever, doesn't matter. It's whether you can handle him or not, he negates your entire kit and/or he's a god. And I don't think you understand that it's not just him being behind that makes it "easy" to fight him. It's whether you have common sense on if you CAN WALK AROUND THE WALL, and keep a distance away from Yasuo at the same time. Someone like Zed can just put a W through the wall and poke him. If you had common sense to walk around a wall, then you have common sense to avoid a Yasuo Q. Seriously, it's really not that hard to dodge if you know how to make him miss. Buy QSS if youre tired of his ult, use it right when the 3rd Q hits. If he ults you fast enough and you dont use QSS, use QSS while in the air and flash away (if you have flash) to avoid the damage from the ult. He will only have his bonus armor Pen from there on so nothing should be super wrong when that happens anyway.

But yeah, he's a good duelist. It's not his fault he's good at fighting.

CeexSett4 votes

I actually don't understand the point you are trying to make...

But good wall of text nonetheless

Destroyah511 votes

Ez, play Malphite and q poke then when you hit 6 just get jungler to gank and ult him, Yasuo is squishy to cc

Yaśuo Main2 votes

Malphite : Watch this.

MissFortune : Whatcha gonna do?

Malphite : HEY YASUO, TRY TO WINDWALL A MOVING MOUNTAIN

Yasuo : Lol i rekt all deez nobs, you cant--

Malphite : ALLAH AKBARR

BOOF

Malphite Shut down! Yasuo

Yasuo : RIPooOrrrtttt!!1!!

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