Shaco's win rate is continuing to climb after the nerfs. Please stop overbuffing champions.

Yenn·10/25/2019, 7:51:25 PM·52 votes·16,023 views

Sit down and look at the patch notes for the past couple of months.

The exact same thing happens every other patch: a champion is very obviously over-buffed in one patch, then the next patch has something along the lines of 'oops, we totally overshot with the changes! ecks dee' and then the next patch follows up with 'haha, guess that little tap we gave them wasn't enough, here's another nerf!' and maybe, just maybe, they've been nerfed to a reasonable position.

This is happening with Shaco right now. He was very obviously buffed too much, and then after weeks of banning him, we finally get a nerf: box duration reduced to 40 seconds! Which is completely useless and has virtually no impact, because it doesn't do anything to address the main issue of how incredibly safe his assassinations are, with him only being visible for ~3 seconds at a time on top of having CC in the form of boxes and being able to juke burst with his ult.

Shaco is currently sitting at almost 55% win rate in Diamond+ (60% win rate in Master+), and Shaco mains are now pushing 63% win rate. This number is absolutely insane. I can't remember ever in the history of League seeing a champion with such a high win rate; the highest is normally around 60-61%.

This really needs to stop. I feel like someone isn't doing their job here.

79 Comments

Craft Zeppelin10/25/2019, 8:54:19 PM32 votes

Riot should have never allowed "Shaco mains" out of all people to give them ideas. They are notorious for brigading communities and think upvoting it to a 70 by fabricating it would give them a say. This is not the second time they done this, its like the third or fourth.

Light of Madness10/25/2019, 10:52:45 PM7 votes

If people do not know to buy Pink ward is their problem.

I can win easy against shaco sup .. Pressure + pink ward.

You can also use zyra to destroy boxes

Energy Legend10/26/2019, 4:31:13 AM7 votes

"Nerfing his boxes down to 40 seconds did virtually nothing"... Except it made his stupidly OP lvl 3 by ~2:15 not work anymore. Not saying he is weak after that or the nerf was enough but it did more than you think lol.

OneMustFall10/26/2019, 5:48:50 AM6 votes

Bullshit numbers with no source? Check.

https://u.gg/lol/champions/shaco/build?rank=diamond_plus

Right. Not even close to the nonsense you're spewing.

AirKingNeo10/25/2019, 9:51:35 PM6 votes
Śhunpo10/26/2019, 3:14:08 AM5 votes

I agree, nerf Ashe and Pyke .

3TWarrior10/26/2019, 4:58:23 PM4 votes

wait wait wait, so he has BARELY above average pick and win rates at roughly 6% pick rate and 52% win rate

what's wrong with him again?

l MrD l10/26/2019, 10:14:25 PM3 votes

Honestly - its not specifically the champion .... its the elements around him

Assasins in general are very strong ... there used to be a time having more than 1 assasin in game was risky now assasins are very common in a lot of games due to runes and items specifically lethality ...

I believe what gave shaco his increase in win rate was the need to not need to be rushing tiamat since his W now has an AOE clear

Imo the lethaility items need to be looked at which they are in next season so when they get changes we then need to judge them

Token Log in10/26/2019, 1:23:14 AM3 votes

HIs win rate is because they took the skill out of him and with this last nerf they did the opposite of what they should have done. Instead of nerfing the point and click E execute that they gave the biggest buff to they instead nerfed the aspect of shaco that takes skill in properly executing box placement and juggling. Bring back a 60 second box timer and reduce damage at level 1 for boxes and across the board for the E execute.

Garen is adopted10/26/2019, 2:32:42 PM3 votes

they will always nerf anything but the acutal issue, and when they acutal nerf the issue the champion will be unplayable because they nerfed everything else alerdy.