Can Riot fix relic shield abuse already

waiting for WoW·Oct 9, 2017·3 votes·1,378 views

There is no reason why Relic Shield should not have an innate cooldown per minion slain the way that Spellthief's Edge does despite the fact that Relic requires a nearby ally while Spellthief's does not.

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RiotRiot MapleNectarOct 9, 201712 votes

Generally speaking I'm quite happy with the relic shield purchase some people having been opting into as an ADC. If the issue is them using it to get Ardent Censer faster and that's your gripe, that's a bit of a different problem, but the idea that the ADC can make that choice with quite the substantial early game tradeoffs is actually really interesting. For once the ADC is actually doing something FOR the support (I know with Ardent it also helps them), but it makes a cooler narrative of the ADC and Support working together to get an advantage over their lane opponents.

BlueBaccaOct 9, 20171 votes

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Generally speaking I'm quite happy with the relic shield purchase some people having been opting into as an ADC. If the issue is them using it to get Ardent Censer faster and that's your gripe, that's a bit of a different problem, but the idea that the ADC can make that choice with quite the substantial early game tradeoffs is actually really interesting. For once the ADC is actually doing something FOR the support (I know with Ardent it also helps them), but it makes a cooler narrative of the ADC and Support working together to get an advantage over their lane opponents.

Yea I actually really like it. Sucks ardent is so strong and you have to rush it though.

PennsOct 9, 20171 votes

It is by far the highest win rate starting item on champs like Kog and Twitch tho, even now that Ardent got nerfed.

jwebb0113Oct 9, 20172 votes

item 3302 has two charges and recharges every 40 seconds

so what is your complaint ?

AnastaeciaOct 9, 20171 votes

Relic shield has a 40s cd (ST's is 30). Are you talking about something else?

MarvelOtterOct 9, 20171 votes

your post makes no sense bud. you cant compare the 2 in the way you're trying to... relic allows you to grab minions while spellthiefs discourages it. I'm having a hard time explaining what I'm trying to say, but relic shield already accounts for slain minions as much as it should.

AnastaeciaOct 9, 20171 votes

He might be referring to ADCs using it to get their supp to Ardent faster...it does rack up the gold.

MarvelOtterOct 9, 20171 votes

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He might be referring to ADCs using it to get their supp to Ardent faster...it does rack up the gold.

well yeah, ive tried doing this before very recently. Its not amazing but can work well situationally. you sacrifice a pretty good amount of damage.

AnastaeciaOct 9, 20171 votes

yea, depends on the bot and supp champs

Titanium70Oct 9, 20171 votes

Why? It's completely fine for duo-lane to use it this way. It not like it would be free +. Starting Relic is always a tradeoff - and tradeoffs are good for diversity.

If now JGLs and/or TOPs would start Relic to give that gold to each other... that would be a clear ..'abuse' or better hint the Item is broken in one way or another. But this is not happening.

(Athough... Top lane relic might even work - but it would require the JGL to show up on a regular base to get the gold-advantage which is simply not happening these days. )

Shuyin178Oct 9, 20171 votes

Something I find funny about this. The double-relic shield was always an option, but nobody ever actually tried it until recently unless they were a melee-ADC. Now that it's been discovered (like everything else people discover is actually broken, like Lulu mid back in season 3, RIP) everyone is wanting it nerfed to "stop the abuse" that was always possible since the item's release.