Game is cancer

Covert Ops Gnar·Jan 26, 2017·2 votes·1,051 views

keystones
"modernizing" champions with "unique" abilities that end up being broken as fuck
first tower gold
no fortification on bot tower
broken items
%damage dragon
damage creep
refusal to nerf broken champions with 55+% win rate and 30+% pick rate for months
not enough bans for all the broken champions. Somehow managing to still have 0 champion diversity outside having 30 pick/ban champs
increase in intent feeders, AFKs, and 'open mid's.
and more

After uninstalling this cancerous game last week, I go to check the match history of my Plat 2 Duo partner on my phone: He has a ranked match last 10 minutes and 30 seconds with a loss

fucking

minutes

what the cancerous fuck is that?

32 Comments

EschetonJan 26, 20176 votes

yeah whatever, stop using that word so casually. It's toxic at the least and makes it so whatever you say next gets taken less seriously.

Covert Ops GnarJan 26, 20171 votes

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yeah whatever, stop using that word so casually. It's toxic at the least and makes it so whatever you say next gets taken less seriously.

stay silver

Horse GrenadesJan 26, 20174 votes

But... you're silver.

Covert Ops GnarJan 26, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=ApocaIypse Meow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-26T17:51:26.576+0000)

But... you're silver.

posting on alt

TheTariansJan 26, 20172 votes

And you have evidence you're not silver where?

Horse GrenadesJan 27, 20172 votes

He has none, because he is.

it is fine to be silver.

It is not fine to pretend you are not.

Covert Ops GnarJan 27, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=ApocaIypse Meow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-27T02:44:36.396+0000)

He has none, because he is.

it is fine to be silver.

It is not fine to pretend you are not.

http://imgur.com/a/3mNWT kid gtfo

Horse GrenadesJan 27, 20172 votes

Nice screenshot? Just comment using the account

Covert Ops GnarJan 28, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=ApocaIypse Meow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-27T14:19:06.704+0000)

Nice screenshot? Just comment using the account

click the arrows

Horse GrenadesJan 28, 20171 votes

Nice screenshots? Literally just post from your acct. poser lol

Covert Ops GnarJan 28, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=ApocaIypse Meow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-28T06:00:21.410+0000)

Nice screenshots? Literally just post from your acct. poser lol

kek forum banned for de_stroying some bronzie kid with facts

ZephyrDrakeJan 28, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Gnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-28T02:23:45.165+0000)

click the arrows

i am a challenger player! you don't believe me? too bad i am posting on an alt! wait let me get some random screenshot of a challenger player that will def prove that i am challenger and not by actually posting on my challenger account! [slayer-jinx-wink]

Covert Ops GnarJan 28, 20171 votes

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i am a challenger player! you don't believe me? too bad i am posting on an alt! wait let me get some random screenshot of a challenger player that will def prove that i am challenger and not by actually posting on my challenger account! [slayer-jinx-wink]

Oh yeah. I just found some random account that has screenshots of random lolnexus matches, and every promotion from gold to diamond playing urgot.

find something like that on the internet, please.

do it.

get out of here gold-ielox

ZephyrDrakeJan 28, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Gnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-01-28T06:08:05.226+0000)

Oh yeah. I just found some random account that has screenshots of random lolnexus matches, and every promotion from gold to diamond playing urgot.

find something like that on the internet, please.

do it.

get out of here gold-ielox

ooh it hurts that you are caught lying right? either post on your goddamn main account or shut the hell up because you are not the rank you say you are! i am higher rank than you! mr Silver!

Covert Ops GnarJan 28, 20171 votes

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ooh it hurts that you are caught lying right? either post on your goddamn main account or shut the hell up because you are not the rank you say you are! i am higher rank than you! mr Silver!

http://imgur.com/a/6JRqz

Adorable gold still trying to talk shit. Sounds like somebody's hardstuck

ZephyrDrakeJan 28, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Gnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-28T06:44:27.071+0000)

http://imgur.com/a/6JRqz

Adorable gold still trying to talk shit. Sounds like somebody's hardstuck

mr silver please post on your actual main account! oh you cannot because you do not have another account! somebody is very desperate! i can also do that and find someone to screenshot some random thing! POST ON IT! you cannot post on it? you do not have anything so cry more please mr silver!

Covert Ops GnarJan 28, 20171 votes

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mr silver please post on your actual main account! oh you cannot because you do not have another account! somebody is very desperate! i can also do that and find someone to screenshot some random thing! POST ON IT! you cannot post on it? you do not have anything so cry more please mr silver!

I've already proved I own the account

You're just mad you're hardstuck g5 for 3 seasons

cry more :)

ZephyrDrakeJan 28, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Gnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000001,timestamp=2017-01-28T07:10:56.235+0000)

I've already proved I own the account

You're just mad you're hardstuck g5 for 3 seasons

cry more :)

no you haven't. Post on it. CRY MORE SINCE THAT'S NOT YOUR ACCOUNT!

Covert Ops GnarJan 28, 20171 votes

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no you haven't. Post on it. CRY MORE SINCE THAT'S NOT YOUR ACCOUNT!

you wish u could get past gold playing flavor of the month, let alone urgot

ZephyrDrakeJan 28, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Gnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000003,timestamp=2017-01-28T07:55:13.620+0000)

you wish u could get past gold playing flavor of the month, let alone urgot

still don't see you posting on your supposedly main account! comeback when you actually decide to do it which is going to be never!

Covert Ops GnarJan 28, 20171 votes

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still don't see you posting on your supposedly main account! comeback when you actually decide to do it which is going to be never!

salty salty salt

ZephyrDrakeJan 28, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Gnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000005,timestamp=2017-01-28T08:18:13.056+0000)

salty salty salt

yawn

Covert Ops GnarJan 27, 20171 votes

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And you have evidence you're not silver where?

http://imgur.com/a/3mNWT

Urgot to Diamond.

Tyrone LannisterJan 26, 20173 votes

Yet you still post. Lul. If you truly hate this game, youd disassociate yourself from it.

Covert Ops GnarJan 26, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tyrone Lannister,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-26T17:44:12.765+0000)

Yet you still post. Lul. If you truly hate this game, youd disassociate yourself from it.

I love the game

hate what they've done with it

k wìxJan 26, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Gnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-01-26T17:29:36.503+0000)

keystones

I'll concede that Keystones should be looked at and tweaked/redesigned, but to say they are ruining the game is completely wrong.

"modernizing" champions with "unique" abilities that end up being broken as fuck

Eh, i'd say they are 50/50 for being 'overtuned'.. but NONE of them are broken as fuck in the current meta. It's mostly older champions. Your just wrong here. Ivern Is a perfect counter argument. He's interesting, Unique, and hell - a bit underpowered.

first tower gold

no fortification on bot tower

I really don't see how this is ruining the game. Either of them. I guess you dislike the 'snowbally' meta, or feel the games move too fast? I'm generally fine with it. Or lets get a bit more specific, I don't think you can provide me any evidence that the average game length has come down that far - my matches are still between 20 and 50 minutes. It all varies.

broken items

Which? let's get specific here.

%damage dragon

It's fine. Dragon needs to be strong.

damage creep

I'll concede this one to ya - I'd like for them to take a look at damage - but I'd say ... lower ALL global damage by like.. 5-10% would be fine. It's not as out of control as many players think. The assassin update helped a lot with this, burst mages still pretty crazy, but generally they have to expose themselves to burst.

refusal to nerf broken champions with 55+% win rate and 30+% pick rate for months

Uh.. Where do you get your data? Most i can bring up is 53%... either way 55% isn't that bad - Almost all other competitive mobas are worse. You think this game is poorly balanced? Try HOTS.

not enough bans for all the broken champions. Somehow managing to still have 0 champion diversity outside having 30 pick/ban champs

5 bans are coming, but I still think there are plenty of champions who are in the B-A tier range that are completely viable. Maybe @ Diamond + levels of play, but this is true of every single moba. Period.

increase in intent feeders, AFKs, and 'open mid's.

This isn't their fault from a design perspective. This happens in every game in the world. Some people just aren't going to care.

So... Keystones and Damage creep? Sure - they are working on it. Game's still amazing. I don't really get most of your arguments.

AquafugeJan 26, 20171 votes

I'm not able to play ranked yet, but from what i've seen, bans are like a chess game. you have to base your bans off what your team comp is based off the opposing team bans. If you ban tanky champs because you plan on a high damage/burst team and then you have to change your team comp because the other guy/gal went and picked apart the assassin class. But i could be wrong.

Covert Ops GnarJan 26, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=k wìx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-26T17:52:00.792+0000)

I'll concede that Keystones should be looked at and tweaked/redesigned, but to say they are ruining the game is completely wrong.

Eh, i'd say they are 50/50 for being 'overtuned'.. but NONE of them are broken as fuck in the current meta. It's mostly older champions. Your just wrong here. Is a perfect counter argument. He's interesting, Unique, and hell - a bit underpowered.

I really don't see how this is ruining the game. Either of them. I guess you dislike the 'snowbally' meta, or feel the games move too fast? I'm generally fine with it. Or lets get a bit more specific, I don't think you can provide me any evidence that the average game length has come down that far - my matches are still between 20 and 50 minutes. It all varies.

Which? let's get specific here.

It's fine. Dragon needs to be strong.

I'll concede this one to ya - I'd like for them to take a look at damage - but I'd say ... lower ALL global damage by like.. 5-10% would be fine. It's not as out of control as many players think. The assassin update helped a lot with this, burst mages still pretty crazy, but generally they have to expose themselves to burst.

Uh.. Where do you get your data? Most i can bring up is 53%... either way 55% isn't that bad - Almost all other competitive mobas are worse. You think this game is poorly balanced? Try HOTS.

5 bans are coming, but I still think there are plenty of champions who are in the B-A tier range that are completely viable. Maybe @ Diamond + levels of play, but this is true of every single moba. Period.

This isn't their fault from a design perspective. This happens in every game in the world. Some people just aren't going to care.

So... Keystones and Damage creep? Sure - they are working on it. Game's still amazing. I don't really get most of your arguments.

Broken braindead champs include Twitch Darius Draven Yasuo Zac Warwick Rengar Quinn Nocturne Khazix Kayle Katarina Graves Hecarim Cassiopeia Evelynn Ahri Malzahar Thresh Janna Lux Leblanc Jhin Tryndamere Caitlyn Jayce Vayne Nautilus Kled JarvanIV Camille

These are also the only viable champions in League (all mages are viable, not included though). Play anything but this, and it's an automatic loss in Diamond+

k wìxJan 26, 20171 votes

lol.

Covert Ops GnarJan 26, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=k wìx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-26T17:52:00.792+0000)

I'll concede that Keystones should be looked at and tweaked/redesigned, but to say they are ruining the game is completely wrong.

Eh, i'd say they are 50/50 for being 'overtuned'.. but NONE of them are broken as fuck in the current meta. It's mostly older champions. Your just wrong here. Is a perfect counter argument. He's interesting, Unique, and hell - a bit underpowered.

I really don't see how this is ruining the game. Either of them. I guess you dislike the 'snowbally' meta, or feel the games move too fast? I'm generally fine with it. Or lets get a bit more specific, I don't think you can provide me any evidence that the average game length has come down that far - my matches are still between 20 and 50 minutes. It all varies.

Which? let's get specific here.

It's fine. Dragon needs to be strong.

I'll concede this one to ya - I'd like for them to take a look at damage - but I'd say ... lower ALL global damage by like.. 5-10% would be fine. It's not as out of control as many players think. The assassin update helped a lot with this, burst mages still pretty crazy, but generally they have to expose themselves to burst.

Uh.. Where do you get your data? Most i can bring up is 53%... either way 55% isn't that bad - Almost all other competitive mobas are worse. You think this game is poorly balanced? Try HOTS.

5 bans are coming, but I still think there are plenty of champions who are in the B-A tier range that are completely viable. Maybe @ Diamond + levels of play, but this is true of every single moba. Period.

This isn't their fault from a design perspective. This happens in every game in the world. Some people just aren't going to care.

So... Keystones and Damage creep? Sure - they are working on it. Game's still amazing. I don't really get most of your arguments.

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/game-durations last week Diamond games were in the 23-24 minute mark (my main)

Lee sin was broken for a fucklong time, now it's Vi, Kha, etc

Toxicity increasing from how 1-sided games are due to snowballing

Broken items like item 3107 item 3190 , the new item 3078 , any diver items

IVERN has been broken as fuck for a month+, he had 55% win rate after jungle clear time increased

k wìxJan 26, 20171 votes

For game length, that seems about right for me - 30 minutes is my average game length - but its been that way since I've started playing. And i've been playing for a long time. Maaaybe... 5 minutes less tops? Game is still fine. Also, I think your statistic is skewed because of many, many games being surrendered @ 20 and remade

Lee Sin has always been a powerful pick, but his winrate proves that he's pretty balanced. I think most pro-players would agree. Vi is pretty fucking amazing currently - but again - Look to other moba's - 54-55% winrate is commonplace. You are arguing over threads.

As far as I'm concerned, your not Diamond+ until you can prove it.

Really surprised about Ivern though! I never see him played, sitting @ 3% play rate, probably less as the ranks go down. I'll have to watch some people who are good with him to figure out how to play him.

Covert Ops GnarJan 27, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=k wìx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dVX2EeQc,comment-id=000200020000,timestamp=2017-01-26T19:47:54.357+0000)

For game length, that seems about right for me - 30 minutes is my average game length - but its been that way since I've started playing. And i've been playing for a long time. Maaaybe... 5 minutes less tops? Game is still fine. Also, I think your statistic is skewed because of many, many games being surrendered @ 20 and remade

Lee Sin has always been a powerful pick, but his winrate proves that he's pretty balanced. I think most pro-players would agree. Vi is pretty fucking amazing currently - but again - Look to other moba's - 54-55% winrate is commonplace. You are arguing over threads.

As far as I'm concerned, your not Diamond+ until you can prove it.

Really surprised about Ivern though! I never see him played, sitting @ 3% play rate, probably less as the ranks go down. I'll have to watch some people who are good with him to figure out how to play him.

http://imgur.com/a/3mNWT

We aren't talking about "other mobas".

Games that FF@20 mean they end at 20. Game still ended.

Lee was just fucking nerfed after months of being broken.