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Thanks for ruining supports with the 9.3 hotfix

PopcornBunni··11 votes·6,596 views

February 12th Hotfix

Ancient Coin

New Effect: Now only drops mana coins unless an ally champion is within 1500 units.
Favor gold coin increased to Gold 28 from Gold 25.

Frostfang

New Effect: Now requires an ally champion within 1500 units in order to earn gold.
Tribute gold generated increased to Gold 22 from Gold 20.

Nomad's Medallion

New Effect: Now only drops mana coins unless an ally champion is within 1500 units.
Favor gold coin increased to Gold 50 from Gold 45.

Remnant of the Ascended

New Effect: Now only drops mana coins unless an ally champion is within 1500 units.
Favor gold coin increased to Gold 50 from Gold 45.

Remnant of the Watchers

New Effect: Now requires an ally champion within 1500 units in order to earn gold.
Tribute gold generated increased to Gold 22 from Gold 20.

Spellthief's Edge

New Effect: Now requires an ally champion within 1500 units in order to earn gold.
Tribute gold generated increased to Gold 11 from Gold 10.

Now when the enemy free pushes to my tower and I have to defend after my adc backs it it's good to know I won't be able to get any gold.

Just admit farm bounty was a mistake already.

19 Comments

Anomander6 votes

Blame the pros with their 0 farm Zilean top lane.........

NightWind421 votes

That's not something that comes from the pros, it's an idea that was shared on Reddit about 2-3 weeks ago and that got some popularity before it was ever seen in pro play. The strat wasn't even talked about with Zilean, it was mostly Kennen and Karma. And then yes, it reached the pro scene because it was something popular out of it.

Now what we have on our hands is just someone blindly overreacting just for the sake of criticizing changes without knowing what he's talking about. No, the support role isn't "ruined" just because you can't get gold from poking the opponent whn your ADC recalls. Spoiler: tht doesn't even change anything, because when the ADC recalls, you're taking the CS and thus disabling your item's passive. Assuming the person knows how to last-hit, but that's a problem on their side, not on Riot's.

Anomander3 votes

Pros are the reason it is getting hot fixed.

Deep Terror Nami6 votes

Take the CS...

Illabethe2 votes

You Can't. It still puts the trinket on cooldown, which means once the adc is back in lane, you will not be able to gain any gold for several minutes.

Wizard Blaze4 votes

what the fuck riot.

Boltonator2 votes

1500 units is a rather sizable distance.

In the few times that I’ve played PvP matches I usually recall with my adc.

I’ll have to try it in a few PvP matches myself before I can render a verdict or cry foul.

SUCC Ghast2 votes

As a support main on my main, i gotta say this is only a nerf to frostfang. Ancient coin basically already depended on the adc to last hit for the coins, and since there isnt a cooldown, the support can simply farm when adc leaves lane and get gold anyways. Frostfang however, this a nerf. No matter what way you look at it, caster supports got nerfed by this hard. Now if riot removes the cooldown for csing on frostfang, then its a buff for the same reasoning as ancient coin.

rtbf2216514121 votes

[{quoted}](name=SUCC Ghast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dTK5Lk2z,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-02-13T02:16:20.839+0000)

Ancient coin basically already depended on the adc to last hit for the coins.

Wait what? Minions kill each other too you know. If you are defending tower as Janna with the shield that can actually prevent damage to objectives, you will get gold drops with coin as well. Any support main knows this.

SUCC Ghast1 votes

yes but gold drops are less worth under tower than if you cs yourself when the adc is away. It really comes down to, at that point

  1. "Do i want to get progress towards my wards?" or
  2. "Do i want a small gold advantage by farming this wave under tower while my adc is away/dead?"
Moonscourge1 votes

{quoted}

Wait what? Minions kill each other too you know. If you are defending tower as Janna with the shield that can actually prevent damage to objectives, you will get gold drops with coin as well. Any support main knows this.

Yeah, but you can also just last hit the minions yourself you know? LMAO

Néékö1 votes

Wait you mean burst mages like brand cant trade dmg for gold when is adc I'd dead or backed.... or supports toplane withklepto and gold item..

I main support and I'm ok with this nurf. It's going to hurt the auto filled more than me.

Illabethe1 votes

Good luck getting gold on Nami/Soraka etc when your adc dies and leaves you solo in lane, or post lane when the game is perpertual run/chase/catch up.

Reaper Soraka1 votes

As long as they remove the cooldown on spellthief/frostfang for taking minions while NOT near an ally I see no problem with it in the end.

rtbf2216514121 votes

[{quoted}](name=Reaper Soraka,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dTK5Lk2z,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-02-13T03:06:40.637+0000)

As long as they remove the cooldown on spellthief/frostfang for taking minions while NOT near an ally I see no problem with it in the end.

And then we have damage mages dominating support even more. Because clearly that is where they belong. Might as well call support "Psuedo Mid".

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/aZEVyqf4-psa-the-spell-thiefs-change-isnt-as-bad-as-it-seems

lil box1 votes

ohhh no they made coin and spell like relic, that's sooo sad for all the egirls out there :C better nerf engage supports again because mage bots are less toxic for the game in riots eyes

Moonscourge1 votes

This doesn't even have any effect on normal support players. Stop talking shit

hrooza dota 1 votes

what everyone see (ally champion within 1500 units)

what i see (Tribute gold generated increased)

[sg-lux]

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