Tell me how you justify the "Spellvamp was unhealthy" - statement...

Martensitic··3 votes·578 views

...while at the same time, you not only offer ABUNDANT choices for Lifesteal, but also:

  • Still have Warlords in the game

  • item 3812

Please, tell. me. Tell me how "unhealthy" spellvamp was.

And don#t even try to hide the fact that you are playing champ favoritism. Your "article" about diversity, what a joke.

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Mysticman893 votes

I don't believe they ever said spellvamp itself was unhealthy (and after all, it still exists on some champs and through runes/masteries), but rather that spellvamp on items posed an extreme balancing issue for champs such as vlad who used hp as part of their spellcosts.

I don't believe ADCs and other lifesteal builders have hp as a gate to their ability usage.

Niyumi2 votes

Am I looking at my evil twin posting things? xD I've made this same post several times.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

Is Cassiopeia healing 300 health per E balanced? She doesn't even have to come close to you. What about Karthus Using his E/Q to heal 100+ per second? At least champions like Tryndamere are actually risking something by coming close to you, to autoattack range, so they can hit you to heal.

And ADCs have 200 health at level 18, so they kinda need it.

0 Hogapu1 votes

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Is Cassiopeia healing 300 health per E balanced? She doesn't even have to come close to you. What about Karthus Using his E/Q to heal 100+ per second? At least champions like Tryndamere are actually risking something by coming close to you, to autoattack range, so they can hit you to heal.

And ADCs have 200 health at level 18, so they kinda need it.

So, just because it is broken for 3 champs, spellvamp should not exist ?

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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So, just because it is broken for 3 champs, spellvamp should not exist ?

Anivia She has a bunch of burst damage, but now she gets to heal? Azir His DPS and range will make him heal an insane amount. Syndra Her range, her only weakness is being really squishy and immobile but spellvamp eliminates her being so squishy. Vladimir He already heals, want more of that? Zyra Her plants are going to make her heal a ton, and she can create multiple at a time. Malzahar He can already put down some voidlings and walk away, now he gets to heal during that. Also, if he uses his E in trades with spellvamp he can't ever lose that trade. Ahri Her passive already heals her, but now the bolts from her W/R do. Also she's mobile, has cc, and true damage..so.. AurelionSol He has his stars, so there's that. Viktor Already does a bunch of damage safely, do you honestly want him to heal from it, removing one of his only weaknesses - being squishy. Xerath Same as Viktor. Heimerdinger His 3 tower nest has just become even deadlier. Morgana Midlane morgana already abuses her passive, give her spellvamp and she heals herself more than Soraka heals her adc. Swain His whole kit is about healing. Want more of it?

The only mages it wouldn't be broken on would be really high cooldown burst champions such as Veigar or Vel'koz. The champions I listed are all pretty safe, wouldn't you agree? They either have their passive protecting them if they mess up, or they have pretty long range. Basically getting risk free healing whenever they want it, and if you manage to get close to them, mages will just be even tankier and outtrade every melee champion in the game since they already have a bunch of health items that benefit them greatly such as

item 3151 item 3116 item 3152 item 3030 item 3040 (The shield) And to top it all off, make them even harder to kill since they usually buy item 3157

Martensitic2 votes

And where is the risk for champions like Caitlyn Twitch Vayne Riven ?

And ADCs have 200 health at level 18, so they kinda need it.

Wow, nothing about this sentence was even remotely connected to reality.

200 health at lvl 18...sure bud, suuuure.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

Caitlyn immobile ADC with pretty low health, anyone in the game is going to kill her in 2 seconds if you aren't a support. Twitch Low health adc. If you get close to him, you'll do more damage to his health than he can heal up. Vayne I'm pretty sure she's broken right now. If you think she's not, manage to hit her and she'll blow up faster than anyone. Riven She has to get close to you, to get put in the middle of where she could receive damage, whether it be in the middle of your minion wave or your team when she's diving for you. Unlike mages, who would hit you from behind walls or pretty long distances.

200 health at lvl 18...sure bud, suuuure.

Was an exaggeration, I know that they have like 1800 health or something at level 18, but that's still extremely low. Any ability or some type of bruiser/tank's autoattack is going to take a huge chunk of their health.

Martensitic1 votes

things you said about champs

I could say similar things about every AP caster that was hit hard by the spellvamp remove. But hey, I know, being a riot fanboi demands being immune to certain facts, otherwise they start making no sense.

Was an exaggeration,

What a fine euphemism for "bulls* I wrote because I lack actual arguments."

ForgiveColour1 votes

euw

LUL

UltraGigaNiga1 votes

It was more along the lines of nobody uses this shit besides vlad so lets just get rid of it

Martensitic1 votes

Mordekaiser Akali Ekko Fiddlesticks

Also "only a few champs use it" is not an argument. Only a few champs get to Dragonkick enemies so should we remove Lees ultimate?

UltraGigaNiga1 votes

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Mordekaiser Akali Ekko Fiddlesticks

Also "only a few champs use it" is not an argument. Only a few champs get to Dragonkick enemies so should we remove Lees ultimate?

What the fuck is that argument. I just lost a few hundred brain cells from that.

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