Boy it's fun to play against a Veigar.

dominusx·Oct 8, 2016·20 votes·2,218 views

Amirite? proactive gameplay.

85 Comments

MarshbouyOct 8, 20169 votes

Boy it's fun to play against Syndra Anivia Teemo TahmKench Gangplank the list goes on and on depending on who you find "fun" to play against.

dominusxOct 8, 20161 votes

teemo doesnt really matter outside lane. and Gp is garbage early and now pretty much till 2 items witht he nerfs. Anivia is cancer yeh she just R-E the enemy 2 times and they die.

MarshbouyOct 8, 20163 votes

Teemo actually does matter outside of lane. GP is still incredibly frustrating to fight in the early game.

The point of my comment wasn't to actually say they were OP. I was just saying they were "cancer to fight", or that you could call anything "cancer to fight"

dominusxOct 8, 20161 votes

hmm point taken

MarshbouyOct 8, 20161 votes

That being said i totally agree with you, he is incredibly unfun to play against, but it's all subjective. For instance a Khazix main would love to face a veigar, but a veigar would love to face an Ashe

GULAG 4 UOct 8, 20161 votes

False, a kha'zix main doesn't wants to face a veigar. If he fails to gtfo/kill viegar before the cage is finished, he's dead.

A kha'zix's wet dream is more like

Ashe ADC Squishy support Squishy mid low cc enemy jungler

VivaLaKittenOct 8, 20164 votes

step on a full magic pen teemo shroom as anyone but a tank, then tell me teemo isn't good late game it chunks at tanks too though

BlastiresOct 8, 20164 votes

Q spell from Full magic pen Teemo is literally able to 100 to 0 an adc. I did it to a jinx earlier

AstôlfoOct 9, 20161 votes

What build? And by full MPen, you mean all MPen runes + like, Void Staff/Liandry's?

BlastiresOct 11, 20161 votes

item 3151 item 3020 item 3285 item 3135 item 3165 item 3089 with thunderlord. Try it, I guarantee you no one will have fun in your game. Whether its your team or theirs entirely depends on you tho.

Of couse some magic pen is needed in your runes.

AstôlfoOct 11, 20161 votes

How do you sleep at night

BlastiresOct 11, 20161 votes

By listening to the sound of Teemo lauguing on repeat in my headphones.

AramsAreBestOct 9, 20161 votes

I like to play vs teemo

RipikouOct 8, 20162 votes

Jah Jah it's like Syndra. Stun then press R.... WIN

MohawkBirdOct 8, 20162 votes

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EedatOct 8, 20162 votes

Cant dodge that ult though. Cant flash away from it. Cant body block it. Hell, it'll kill you even if she is dead.

AbyssphereOct 8, 20161 votes

Well if she doesn't stun you then there's not much reason to be in range of her ult, is there?

MohawkBirdOct 8, 20162 votes

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EedatOct 8, 20161 votes

She can't. But she can do 50% of you HP with it

MohawkBirdOct 8, 20161 votes

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EedatOct 8, 20161 votes

yeah but its the whole point-and-click ult that cant be dodged thing that gets people

MohawkBirdOct 8, 20161 votes

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WacingTheFindOct 8, 20162 votes

Veigar can no longer 1 shot people with his ult since his rework, his ult was turned into a execute after all

MelledoneusOct 9, 20161 votes

Well, technically speaking, there will be a point where he can 1 shot someone with it regardless...

AstôlfoOct 9, 20161 votes

His ultimate does 1025 damage if he has 1000 AP, before calculating MR/MPen, against a full health target. That will never one-shot anyone.

MelledoneusOct 9, 20161 votes

Veigar isn't constrained by limits of AP.

AstôlfoOct 9, 20161 votes

Duh? But you're not going to ever reasonably get a large enough amount of AP to one-shot anyone at full health at any point in the game without them being severely behind or you being extremely ahead. You'd need over 1400 AP to one-shot someone with ~1400 health. Hence, 1000 being the normal upper range which most Veigars attain by lategame.

MelledoneusOct 9, 20161 votes

You should probably read my comment again. I said that there's technically a point where Veigar can one shot anyone. He just has to reach it.

BlastiresOct 11, 20161 votes

His ult does 1025 + base damage

AstôlfoOct 11, 20161 votes

Uh, no. It's 325 base at max rank + 75% AP against a full health target, which increases in damage relative to missing health (not % missing health scaling, but the flat damage multiplier increases off % missing health, sort of like how Riven's ult works).

BlastiresOct 11, 20161 votes

Oh, true.

Well my bad.

SirPacifistaOct 9, 20161 votes

Veigar is actually capable of 1 shotting as well, and it doesn't even require set-up.

How so?

With his Execute ult which requires the enemy to have low hp to do any damage?

dominusxOct 8, 20162 votes

Syndra R is a tiny ball ( before late game wehre she has 3 balls ) that shoots in a straight line. Veigar stun is this gay fkn shit aoe thingy that if he puts his meteor in the middle you are pretty much guarenteed to hit and if you dodge it he can just Q-R and it should be enough considering you dont 1v5 veigar you fight him AND his team before any stupid comment pops up that says oH DODGE it yeh sure imma make my champions range move up to 600 to outrange him..

Big LincolnOct 8, 20165 votes

syndra R is 3 balls always and goes up to 7

and no, it's not 'guaranteed;' if veigar misses his stun and nobody else CCs you there is no reason to get hit by his W

AstôlfoOct 8, 20162 votes

If you can't dodge Veigar's Q/W/E, that's your fault. If you get stunned by his E, that's your fault.

dominusxOct 8, 20161 votes

allow every melee champion to get a range boost of 400.

AstôlfoOct 8, 20161 votes

??? Why?

dominusxOct 8, 20161 votes

to be able to dodge his stun while worrying about 4 other people or peeling for someone or tryna kill someone higher priority or getting cc'ed by one of the retarded meta tanks etc etc.

AstôlfoOct 8, 20161 votes

Or... you could just not stay inside his damn circle pre-indicator? Or get QSS/Banshee's/etc? Or even if he does make the circle, then don't walk into the edge of it?

dominusxOct 8, 20161 votes

for the 1st sentence it's not easy to just walk around like a retard in a teamfight specially as a melee. for the second one qss banshee works once and keep in mind 5champs means 20 abilities and on average at least 6-7 of the spells will be CC oriented . as for the 3rd sentence you do realise it's a fucking big ass circle that can pretty much cut off ANY chokepoint and cancel dashes.

Succubús GFOct 8, 20161 votes

Actually, Katarina Talon Lissandra can all go through it .-. 2 of them are melee. You are welcome.

AstôlfoOct 8, 20161 votes

That's a bad argument sort of though. It's not a guarantee that they'll be playing one of the three. But dominusx's arguments in general are bad.

Succubús GFOct 8, 20161 votes

You are right, i just woke up and actually explainng to someone that an immobile mage isnt op is actually kind of tedious. That being said, counters, are counters, if you picked a champ that cant kill veig, then sorry? He is speaking on behalf of melee, which is okay i guess, even though ranged is obviously the better choice. I am almost certain that every mid laner that is melee can dash out of veig's e. Unless you are playing riven mid, then kindly just Q.Q away ya salty riven main ;).

AstôlfoOct 8, 20161 votes

Eh, every champion can kill Veigar. It's just easier for ranged or those with gapclosers/burst to do so. And you don't even need a dash when you can just walk out of the circle anyways before it appears.

Succubús GFOct 8, 20161 votes

Oh no my ping is at a million ritoooo

dominusxOct 8, 20161 votes

these are blinks not dashes i think there is a difference to that, lucian E is a dash Vayne Q is a dash these are blinks which go trhough. Kha zix jump is also pretty much a dash coding whise

Succubús GFOct 8, 20161 votes

So arguing over semantics instead of getting better. Okay

dominusxOct 8, 20162 votes

i'd try to get better if i wanted to get drafted in a team i'm happy rotting in mid diamond. Game is a joke anyway you either are a tank and do dmg or you take something that oneshots everything in it's sight with aoe abilities no in between matey. And there nothing to get better except attitude my macro is top tier and pretty much master level and my mechanics are a bit above average as far as mid/high diamond goes.

veigarbage canOct 8, 20162 votes

Veigar relies incredibly on the opponent's ignorance to his E.

The DeckownerOct 8, 20161 votes

syndra's stun is a cone with linear extented range if spheres are in range. Her ult is a point and click nuke that can grab 3 guarentee sphere and other spheres around her up to 9 spheres.