Summoner Specialist should not allow you to choose Flash.

WoonStruck··21 votes·1,022 views

#You can start the game with Flash, but if you swap it out, you don't get it back.

There's no reason you should be able to start the game with so much cheese potential summoner 3 summoner 14 and transition into the safety of summoner 4 + summoner 1 summoner 21 summoner 6 summoner 7summoner 12


There needs to be a clear trade-off for this Rune, and the opportunity cost of the other runes will not be enough.

23 Comments

Sun Wu Ryuumoku15 votes

There's no reason you should be able to start the game with so much cheese potential

There's no reason you shouldn't.

Poske12 votes

oh boy can we plz stop over rating a bad keystone

Nyarlathοtep2 votes

Bad keystone that you can adapt your summoners? Are you for real? You must be trolling.

Iota Theta7 votes

Keystone That you can use to adapt your summomers at the cost of potentially better runes and keystones.

Oleandervine2 votes

I don't believe there's any other passive stat in the game that is worth more than swapping out your Summoners.

Nyarlathοtep1 votes

Amen!

Iota Theta1 votes

Maybe not one passive stat, but you have to commit your main tree and keystone to Inspiration, the ultility tree. Damage dealers lose out on damage, and tanks lose out on durability just so they can swap one summoner every 3 minutes provided you take something like barrier/ignite and you to use at least one on CD, because at the moment it requires you to use a summoner spell 3 times before you can swap (they are working on something so it can't be abused with smite).

Compare swapping a high CD summoner spell for something like new Grasp, a different new Defensive keystone for tanks, the new Thunderlord's decree, or even the insane movespeed boost. You lose out on a lot more than a passive stat just to be able to swap summoner spells, and that's the whole point. You have to sacrifice something just to be able to swap a spell every once in a while, because let's face it, you won't be using those spells on CD, making the time building shards and between swaps that much longer.

SithesisLord4 votes

Dunno about you, but that Beserk keystone is worth at least 10 times more on Kayle than being able to swap Summoner Spells.

Nyarlathοtep1 votes

What can be best than adapting your summoners? You can get a stronger kill potential and then at the next moment be almost impossible to gank.

Iota Theta1 votes

How about better burst damage? A strong movespeed boost? A defensive keystone? You have to go all the way into the utility tree to get that keystone, and you'll sacrifice a good bit to be able to adapt your summoners midgame, especially given their CDs and the fact that you currently have to use 3 spells just to swap 1

Nyarlathοtep

Eh could be. But still it will 100% end up a pain in the arse to balance.

Iota Theta1 votes

How they go about it with Smite will play a factor in that, but by the looks of it, Inspiration has little to no damage in it's runes, so you actually have to give something up in favor to have that.

It would be most annoying on champs with early game power, but some of those might prefer the extra damage or defenses instead. So it'll then be, as Riot was hoping, up to each individual player to determine what they want to run.

Poske1 votes

have you ever heard of word gimmick

Consistency is the key

This keystone is anything except consistent

I can see nunu players swaping smite with something else like exhaust lategame since he already has q. Oh wait why would he waste keystone just for that gimmick. by the time smite stops being relevant on nunu game should be over shouldnt it

You can easly have a game where that keystone brings 0 value to you

Nyarlathοtep1 votes

How the fk this keystone cant be consistent? You literally have the power over summoner spells to adapt in-game. This keystone will be everything but 0 value. This keystone CANT have 0 value.

Poske1 votes

In terms on how useful it is

Deathfire touch is consistent Thunderlord is less consistent

That keystone is ultra gimmicky garbage in terms of consistency

Just imagine any sort of graph..

Nyarlathοtep

And imagine how useful it will be in every game. To have flash and ghost. Exhaust and ignite. I can already see how unbalanced it will be.

Poske1 votes

I guess some people have to try it to see it sucks

I can already tell its bad

If the new summoner was instantly on cooldown or like almost on cooldown then people would consider it after buffs it will mostlikely end up like that tbh

HenzoAF6 votes

The whole ideia of the thing is changing your play style from defensive to offensive or offensive to defensive based on your summoner spells during the game and you want to cut that out? WTF

Escheton5 votes

You realize that this is a capstone on a otherwise stat-starved path right? Here, watch Phreak on the new Runes for context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsujU9sjAJw

Yes, it's a good rune. But you pay enough for it.

Kloqdq4 votes

Oh sick I get to swap out my summoner spell once every 3 spell casts. So for the first 15 or so minutes I trade off total survivability for raw damage in top lane (The longest lane) or mid, the center of the map and easy to interact with. The enemy may have barrier, exhaust, ignite or flash of their own but I have exhaust and ignite! Awesome how I also get to lose damage runes that are active on just hitting an ability every 20 or so seconds....

But I have exhaust and ignite!

Nixtarma2 votes

There is still the time to accrue all the summoner shards, and the remaining CDR before you can cast again. Besides, we have not yet seen the best damage keystones, so it is hard to say what the full opportunity cost will be, especially for the sort of champions that want to try that sort of early cheese.

SlimShaneyy1 votes

wait this is happening next season. lmao rip league 2018. People will come back to see the changes realize what clowns are like when they run a company. laugh at the joke and then c:/prorgam/riot/league DELETE!!

Aimléss1 votes

Without that cheesy niche, no one is gonna use it lmao.

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