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Unlimited Scaling needs to go.

Lakega··2 votes·459 views

Sure there's only like 2 champ nasus and Vivi, sorry veigarf who has it, but seriously... With this new meta where the game is decided in the first 5-10 minutes this unlimited scaling bs is even worse than ever before.

Take my last game for example.

We got behind a little at the start. Normally this would result in a loss in the meta today, but we actually came together as at eam really well, made all the right shots, picked the right teamfights, and we honestly were keeping in the game despite always being a little behind. We even managed to grab 2 barons, they got none. Did it matter? nope.

Nasus and his unlimited scaling to the rescue. 1 shotting half our team, and despite that the stars on our team still mange to win teamfights, but alas it doesn't matter. We're screwed.

The team fights take so long by the time we won the fight 3 of htem are already back up becuase it took so insanely long to kill the super god nasus. So we couldn't push any advantage, they still got most of the drakes and we even took out 2 inhibs while again being behind. This is unheard of almost in todays meta, it should of been a won. The enemy team was making numerous mistakes, we got 2 baron buffs, we made the correct calls, but... didnt matter. Nasus eventually got to a point where nothing mattered anymore. Didn't matter how bad they played, or how well we were keeping our heads above water despite the snowball effect and "games are decided in the frist 10 minutes" meta.

Saying "but you gotta keep him down or focus him early game" doesn't fly as a valid strategy anymore. Not in this meta. Always needing 2 top, sometimes even 3 if your top lane screws up once and feeds him an early kill, and he snowballs out of control. That's leaving your jungler unable to gank any other lane or do his job, he's now essentially a top laner. Your mid may even need to help occassionally leaving another lane being allowed to push and free farm, and you need to do this the ENTIRE game.

Seriously who at riot thought unlimited scaling was a good idea?

8 Comments

Critmaster Garen5 votes

there are more than two champions with infinite scaling.

Nasus Veigar Bard Thresh Sion Chogath Kindred

Shyvana (?)

technically with the new runes now everyone can do it.

Lakega1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dLIv9esA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-22T12:43:20.270+0000)

there are more than two champions with infinite scaling.

Nasus Veigar Bard Thresh Sion Chogath Kindred

Shyvana (?)

technically with the new runes now everyone can do it.

I forgot about Chogath. The other infinite scaling aren't nearly as oppressive and out of control as nasus/veigar, and Cho though. So they can be forgiven.

Wráthful2 votes

nasus has pretty defined weaknesses he is vurnable to camping alot, he's melee is easy to be kited so he has to splitpush and if he splitpushes his team can be in a 4v5 fight till nasus does his magic. if u play the map poorly nasus will outsmart all of your calls by just getting free stacks that he shoudnt get and you are in silver 4 u cant judge the meta if u play so low into the ladder since you and your teammates dont have any knowledge how to counter certain playstyles such as nasus's 24/7 pushing top or bot. so on and so forth

Lakega1 votes

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nasus has pretty defined weaknesses he is vurnable to camping alot, he's melee is easy to be kited so he has to splitpush and if he splitpushes his team can be in a 4v5 fight till nasus does his magic. if u play the map poorly nasus will outsmart all of your calls by just getting free stacks that he shoudnt get and you are in silver 4 u cant judge the meta if u play so low into the ladder since you and your teammates dont have any knowledge how to counter certain playstyles such as nasus's 24/7 pushing top or bot. so on and so forth

Nasus weaknesses are overshadowed by his insane scaling and strengths.

Nasus virtually no CD slow especially in late game allows him to chase without fail. Especially if the nasus builds tenacity, and has ghost, and or cleanse, flash, etc. His Slow CD trumps just about every other CC in the game in terms of cool down, and he will overpower yours, or your teams.

Camping Nasus is NOT a detriment to him. It's a win/win for his team. If he's being camped than good job, he's now just as powerful as any other champ in the game, but that means his jungler just got free roam against mid and bot lane, abusing and harrassing them free of your jungler who has to camp top. That's not a set back bro, that's a win for his team.

If you don't do that, then he gets to scale out of control. Win/win.

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Also please argue against what I say, don't revert to "well your rank is low so GG you're wrong" That is the dumbest thing you can do to make a "point". It doesn't mean shit. I can know as much as diamond, plat's or even higher. But maybe I don't play enough to really get down the muscle memory and fix fat fingering etc, or just getting down last hitting, etc. I play maybe 2 games a week. Doesn't mean my knowledge, or know how is in the trash pile, I just don't play enough to get all that worked out.

Seriously that last comment just made you look stupid.

Then again I'm not surprised. When a low elo player says something it's "you're low in rank GG you suck" in response. A week later a high elo player says the same exact thing and it gets an upvote of 100+ with everyone agreeing. sheeple...

Śhunpo2 votes

You're never going to scale infinitely in this meta. Good fucking luck with that when your towers are dead by 10-15min and they're already prepping for baron. [sg-miss-fortune]

Lakega1 votes

{quoted}

You're never going to scale infinitely in this meta. Good fucking luck with that when your towers are dead by 10-15min and they're already prepping for baron. [sg-miss-fortune]

Yet another good example of why unlimited scaling should go, it doesn't matter anyway! Thanks for supporting my OP ^.^

Śhunpo1 votes

{quoted}

Yet another good example of why unlimited scaling should go, it doesn't matter anyway! Thanks for supporting my OP ^.^

Unlimited scaling is nice and all, however, unless Riot make the game able to scale into late game consistently it's never going to matter.

The latest games usually go to now is 30-35 minutes, which still doesn't allow scaling runes such as Gathering Storm to kick in. However....what's the point of running a late game orientated rune when you can just run a rune like Scorch which betters your laning phase in order to actually reach late game?

Although, I disagree when you say that unlimited scaling should go. Unlimited scaling is fine, however it's not a satisfying mechanic when most games are over right after they're started. Although if I had to advocate for any unlimited scaling being gone it would definitely be Cho'gath. That champion should never have gotten infinite scaling.....

Infinite scaling shouldn't be removed, but it would be nice if it got reworked for the champs that utilise this mechanic so that they can become bigger threats earlier.

Great Ozymandius1 votes

Are you seriously asking for nerfs against a 46 percent win rate champion? And against a toplaner in this bot lane centric meta?

If nasus - one of the weakest champions this preseason - hard-carried that game, then he deserved his win. I could tell you the many many ways to neutralize and beat him, but why should I? You obviously haven’t read any of the many posts on the topic, so clearly You have no interest in getting better. You just want to blame a champion for your loss.

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