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This Season sucks so hard...

Lakega··10 votes·733 views

Edit: Because already so many people went full retard, yes I know its PRE SEASON. I know that. I thought people would have have enough intelligence to figure that out, or figure out that I'm talking about the direction this season is going, and how pre season is currently.... Obviously I expected far too much intelligence from the league community. My fault. I'm sorry.

It's a win or loss by 10 minutes 99/100 times. It doesn't matter what you do. It doesn't matter how you play. Late Game is non existant, and mid game barley exists.

These new Runes makes already completely snowbally broken champs even more rediculous. Riven, Jax, Nasus, you name it, 2/0 by 5 minutes, in my elo people don't know the meaning of "play safe" but can I blame them? You do nothing they free farm and get even more crazy OP with the new runes, you try to do something like tower hug they still tower dive you, even if I go to help as jungler, chances are any half baked decent Riven, jax, you name it will still pick up 2 kills under the tower, and die, being 4/1 next time they get to lane and even even more snowbally, because the tower doesn't do jack.

Bottom lane doesn't dare to come help any other lane suffering, or even leave to help the jungler, because that means they just auto lost their tower. Your team behind? to bad there isn't jack you can do about it. Pull back and play safe, well there goes 2 drakes, and the Herald ensuring the already winning team gets even more steroids jammed up their rear, and a free tower to boot, whlie they start taking over the map.

Dare to leave your base by 15 minutes? Get ready for endless camping in your own jungle as you struggle to get wards down, or tell your briliant team that maybe they should use those 2/2 wards they got in their inventory sometime this game.

Did your team finally pull together, and get a perfect combo rotation and team fight? to bad that isnt enough anymore, and you still lost.

GG RIot.. GG

Oh and taken from another post with 100+ upvotes because it ties so well in with what I'm saying, and deserves repeated spams..

Popcornbunni "If you back or die while your opponent is in lane, your tower falls.

If a tower falls, minions automatically push and snowball that lane while the winning laner spreads their win to the others with impunity.

The losing team gets more behind, and towers toss raisins at enemies as an annoyance at best.

There is no catchup. There is no play safe and farm. There is no time to get to a late game. Comebacks only happen in bronze when teams throw, and even then in only 1% of games.

Offensive characters get 500 gold worth of free stats while majoring in resolve grants less than 400 gold of health. There is no viable option in runes for early MR or Armor, and the offensive trees all have feast-or-famine mechanics that snowball even further.

That's about all I have to say about that."

9 Comments

z63XnLCMwX2 votes

I thought S7 was bad.

Slythion2 votes

It's literally not even the season yet lmao

Lakega1 votes

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It's literally not even the season yet lmao

If you were smart, you'd know what I mean. But ok if you need a complete technically correct, without any wishy washy technicalities. put a Pre- in front of season.

:) Always happy to help the less fortunate when it comes to intelligent things.

I also edited the OP for you special snowflakes as well:

"Edit: Because already so many people went full retard, yes I know its PRE SEASON. I know that. I thought people would have enough intelligence to figure that out, or figure out that I'm talking about the direction this season is going, and how pre season is currently.... Obviously I expected far too much intelligence from the league community. My fault. I'm sorry. "

Slythion3 votes

{quoted}

If you were smart, you'd know what I mean. But ok if you need a complete technically correct, without any wishy washy technicalities. put a Pre- in front of season.

:) Always happy to help the less fortunate when it comes to intelligent things.

I also edited the OP for you special snowflakes as well:

"Edit: Because already so many people went full retard, yes I know its PRE SEASON. I know that. I thought people would have enough intelligence to figure that out, or figure out that I'm talking about the direction this season is going, and how pre season is currently.... Obviously I expected far too much intelligence from the league community. My fault. I'm sorry. "

  1. holy shit dude, you don't have to go full tilt-mode passive-aggressive angery teen on me. Sit back and relax, and lets learn to have conversations like mature individuals alright? Holy camoly, yeesh.

  2. Riot has already talked about addressing towers which imo is the source of a lot of the early snowballing. I've personally climbed from bronze 4 -> gold 4 times now and I can tell you there is more to those games than "which side has the worst feeder". The important thing is that assuming you're better than a silver, you will climb because you've removed 1/5th of the chance that someone on your team feeds while the enemy team still has 5 potential sources to feed.

  3. While I agree that games have been more snowbally during this preseason than s7, that's the case for every single preseason that I'm aware of. Games get more snowbally, the true bronze in people show and Riot is still adjusting numbers and reacting to effects from the preseason. You have to understand that the preseason is essentially the "testing" season and that things do level out, it's unfair to assume that this is some huge for league that will stay as it is forever.

Lakega1 votes

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  1. holy shit dude, you don't have to go full tilt-mode passive-aggressive angery teen on me. Sit back and relax, and lets learn to have conversations like mature individuals alright? Holy camoly, yeesh.

  2. Riot has already talked about addressing towers which imo is the source of a lot of the early snowballing. I've personally climbed from bronze 4 -> gold 4 times now and I can tell you there is more to those games than "which side has the worst feeder". The important thing is that assuming you're better than a silver, you will climb because you've removed 1/5th of the chance that someone on your team feeds while the enemy team still has 5 potential sources to feed.

  3. While I agree that games have been more snowbally during this preseason than s7, that's the case for every single preseason that I'm aware of. Games get more snowbally, the true bronze in people show and Riot is still adjusting numbers and reacting to effects from the preseason. You have to understand that the preseason is essentially the "testing" season and that things do level out, it's unfair to assume that this is some huge for league that will stay as it is forever.

Called you out on your stupid post and suddenly you're playing the "lets be mature" card. lawls, alright then.

Yes Riot is addressing towers... again. Sorta like the last time they "buffed" them, but ended up being a huge nerf? Or how about the time before that? The "addressing problems with towers" the last 2 years that have been increasingly nerfing them into the ground. When Riot stops being Riot, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, Until then, they've done nothing to show I should give them any benefit, or "wait and see".

Every season was snowbally to some degree, but not nearly this bad. There has always been a chance to claw back in, not anymore, now its the final straw. Get it? That's why so many people are complaining about it.

Sure I'll climb Eventually, but with how snowbally it's become, and shame on you for not single handedly carrying every lane league has become, it's become much more difficult too.

See this is the argument I hate to argue with people on the league forums, because everyone gets this dumb idea that if you deserve x rank you'll get it. That simply isn't the case. The ONLY thing, the ONLY ONLY ONLY thing that matters in league is how good of csing you are. That's it. With the power spikes, and CSing skills, you can out farm, therefore out utilize, and out equip yourself over your opponent, and since League is all about power spikes and over powered items, that's all you need. Doesn't matter how trash you are in team fights, or even hero mechanics. You got the equipment, and stats to trump your opponent. So long as you know which lane to push when, gg you won the game.

Problem is there are many people I see between the ranks of Gold-Diamond that have far superior team skills, and mechanical skills than the "pro's", yet they aren't even close to challenger level, purely because they can't CS as well. That's it. That's the only skill that really matters in league.

I can't begint o count the amount of insanely good players I've seen in even silver, and gold that are superior in almost every way to even some diamond/plat players, but you know what? doesn't matter, they can't CS as well.. GG so they are stuck in their elo for EONS before they finally climb this fail system they have for ranks.

Right, pre season is the "testing" phase, I get ya. Sorta like how the past 4 years every "pre season" has had completely broken items, champs, or seriously under performing ones, and riot did F nothing to fix it? Are you really so delusional to think pre season means anything? The only thing Riot is testing is whether their changes that F their player base over to "spike up the LCS this year" is going to cause to many people to leave the game. Why do you think they have such disgustingly broken champs they are even't considering changing? Or seriously underpowered CLASSES like Bruisers for over a year now?

Pre season doesn't mean crap, Riot doesn't care about balance. The fact towers, and the game state even got to this point is proof of that.

You wanna know what else is funny? People saying the Runes are adding to much power to the game, and not enough defense.. but don't worry Riot just had some issues balancing out a new "system". F that. THey were internally testing these runes for over a Year, you think with their thousands of internal testing games, and shit they didn't see exactly what they were putting into their game? This is how RIot wants it to be.

Slythion1 votes

Called you out on your stupid post and suddenly you're playing the "lets be mature" card. lawls, alright then.

you're opinion that it's stupid is just that, an opinion. My original comment was factually correct and I already explained to you why I felt the need to clarify that it was preseason. It's obvious you're still letting emotions dictate your tone and how you carry out discussions, which probably means this cant carry on much longer. If you cant carry on without emotions besting you then it is indeed a sign of immaturity.

Yes Riot is addressing towers... again. Sorta like the last time they "buffed" them, but ended up being a huge nerf? Or how about the time before that? The "addressing problems with towers" the last 2 years that have been increasingly nerfing them into the ground.

I'll need sources/examples as to when Riot's "buffs" ended up being a "huge nerf". Towers were fine 2 years ago, and I wont deny that power creep is a thing or that towers have become increasingly useless over the last couple years. What I will refuse to do is attribute this all towards a couple weeks of the most experimental times of league.

Every season was snowbally to some degree, but not nearly this bad. There has always been a chance to claw back in, not anymore, now its the final straw. Get it? That's why so many people are complaining about it.

Just 1 year ago (season 7) we had an assassin meta that was much more snowbally than this preseason. Lethality changes and everything were way more cancerous imo than the current state of the game. It was so snowbally it literally made the scaling class of adc's a meme. I'm curious as to how you know "so many people are complaining about it" because surely you aren't talking about the boards. Here on the boards, we are the epitome of salt and negativity, yet people have complained more about a lore change recently than snowbally games.

See this is the argument I hate to argue with people on the league forums, because everyone gets this dumb idea that if you deserve x rank you'll get it.

it's not a dumb idea, it's a statistical fact and it will happen given enough games

The ONLY thing, the ONLY ONLY ONLY thing that matters in league is how good of csing you are.

That's just not true. I hate to pull the rank card on you, but I climbed to plat 5 this season in 8 days with an 80% wr on Syndra. You're silver 3, and while that's perfectly alright, I'm willing to say I have more general game knowledge than you, and you're just gonna have to trust me that there is definitely more to the game than cs'ing. I'm not about to give you a full league of legends breakdown just to prove that point.

Problem is there are many people I see between the ranks of Gold-Diamond that have far superior team skills, and mechanical skills than the "pro's", yet they aren't even close to challenger level, purely because they can't CS as well. That's it. That's the only skill that really matters in league.

A gold is not better than a diamond. No way no how. A diamond 5 isn't even close to being better than a diamond 2 in any way. Solo queue there may be diamonds better than some pros, but pros understand the game at much deeper level that allows them to be better in real competitive play than solo queue. Your statement here is 90% false

Colgate Gator2 votes

Technically it isn't a season yet.

Therion771 votes

Most of my games are averaging 25 minutes. At 20 minutes the snowballing is complete, and by 25 the game is done. I don't really have anything else say other than that has been my observation. --- And I keep playing late-game ADCs.

Well, you're kind of right, speaking from experience: there is no more late game. Some people will never play safe, and it just takes one lane getting out of control to ruin the rest of the game.

Lakega1 votes

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Most of my games are averaging 25 minutes. At 20 minutes the snowballing is complete, and by 25 the game is done. I don't really have anything else say other than that has been my observation. --- And I keep playing late-game ADCs.

Well, you're kind of right, speaking from experience: there is no more late game. Some people will never play safe, and it just takes one lane getting out of control to ruin the rest of the game.

The biggest is problem is anything under Gold I don't know how to play safe, which means games in Bronze to Gold II results in "which side has the worst feeder" and that's it. It's completely out of your control.

Playing as a jungler, I can contest to this. When I see a lane failing, I go to help, but problem is generally another lane ends up feeding anyway, and I can only be in 1 place at a time. If I go to help that lane, or stick to keeping a strong lane going, the other side starts feeding hardcore. It's a helpless loop. The only thing I can hope is that the 1 lane not feeding is getting so fed themselves, that we can win, or that I am the one who is the most fed and win. Which is the only way I've been winning any games.

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