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LyingOnLine11 votes

If he doesn't, BotRK certainly does.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

I would say nerf bork first (if it doesn't automatically get taken down a few notches with the tank rework), and we'll see where we are. Bork would definitely need a nerf immediately if they weren't doing midseason next week. As it stands, I can understand why they are being cautious.

Chembaron Yamada9 votes

If the upcoming changes in the tank update don't lower his winrate (and I doubt they will), he definitely should be nerfed. Like Azir and Kalista, Lucian is one of the champions who was kept weak intentionally because of problems in his kit. The changes in itemization let him get strong again and they should put him back in place.

Probably the same should be done to Kalista, but I didn't see her played often enough to say for sure.

Choi Young Jun6 votes

yes fucking plz. Broken as hell

FalconPawwwwnch6 votes

One of the most broken champs in game rn

Maybe top 3

Venomar4 votes

As said is the build and BotRK. Black cleaver is getting a small nerf and blades getting its cost increased with more changes on the burner I'm sure.

He just benefits from thier strengths way more than any other ADC right now with his early game BotRK on hit stacking with no midgame slump due to getting black cleaver right about the time tanks begin to scale.

Krully3 votes

its the build thats making him really strong atm

Proxy3453 votes

Nope,that 550 to 500 AA range nerf was enough.

Troy2426212 votes

Of course Lucian needs a nerf, itemization shouldn't revolve around how badly a few cases abuse it. Bork needs a nerf and will be getting one, but the nerf it would need to bring Lucian in line is a bit extreme.

His design is also an incredible problem.

Dianna Leveret2 votes

I think he needs a new passive. His current passive, just makes him exploit and abuse items. Remove this stupid double hit sh1t. Its disgusting to see a Lucian with half builded BoTRK at lvl 5 , lifesteal to full HP in half a minute.

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

They have plans for BotRK soon so I'd see how that goes before nerfing the actual champion first.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Lucian doesn't need nerfs, but he always abuses items.

Give him a rework.

No, don't friggin nerf cleaver just because ADCs are abusing a juggernaut item

Sèx Craved Eve1 votes

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Lucian doesn't need nerfs, but he always abuses items.

Give him a rework.

No, don't friggin nerf cleaver just because ADCs are abusing a juggernaut item

Fiora JarvanIV Jayce Khazix Kled LeeSin Rengar Pantheon Riven Talon Zed MonkeyKing They abuse Cleaver and they're not juggernauts.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Melee champs are fine.

You don't see melee champs getting last whisper items

Why do ADCs get access to: item 3156 item 3053 item 3071 item 3142 item 3022 item 3025 item 3078 item 3814 item 3147 item 3146 item 3124

They always abuse items from other classes.

Yes, there are a few overlaps between certain champs in certain groups, but ADCs have always been abusers of any AD item and ruining it for whoever would use it before

Sp33d Zer01 votes

His winrate has gone up 1% Because his play rate dropped 10%.

It is crazy how much he is winning on EVERYONE who plays him.

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

Actually, every adc needs a strong incentive to be picked as lucian. Nerfing him will make us go straight back into vayne and twitch meta again.

I HATED IT

ProfDrDeath1 votes

BotRK is nerfed on the PBE, whereas IE and ER are buffed. All three items now cost the same (3400 gold).

I am actually really interested in how this will work out. If it turns out that Lucian is still too strong after these changes, he'll need some nerfs, definitely.

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

item 3153

Is the problem not him, although you could say Lucian by definition of design is a problem due to his generalistic nature

But from what i can tell BORK builds make him way stronger

Mama Soraka1 votes

pls no nerf. Every Lucian player I've been matched with in the last few weeks has been so damn good. Playing support for a good Lucian is just relaxing man, don't take this away from me.

Schenix1 votes

Tank update and indirect BotRK nerfs are coming in, so. Not something to accurately debate yet.

Pang Y1 votes

How does he need more nerfs. Botrk is just op

Sèx Craved Eve1 votes

Not yet. Wait for the itemization changes and nerf to Black Cleaver.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

I cannot kill lucian as zed late game with a usual combo that can kill a squishy or even graves. the stupid fucking ninja tabi cleaver build with lifesteal and a dash. hes impossible to kill.

The Deckowner1 votes

The stupid Bork BC Tabi build makes him unkillable in assassin 1v1.

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

I think they should nerf BotRK Fk that item.

Why does everything Rickless change end up fucking the game in a negative way?

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