Hey Riot, about Lucian...

Shinjusuke··9 votes·986 views

Any chance you're going to, idk, actually re-balance Essence Reaver, the ACTUAL problem that's warping the ADC class, instead of dumping on Lucian until he can't function without it?

I mean even you guys have to know the fact that ADCs have insanely easy access to CDR is the actual problem. Lucian has always been a spellslinger-style ADC and previously had to make tradeoffs to hit the 40% CDR if that's the playstyle he was going for.

Now, no ADC has to commit much at all to hit 40%. Lucian is just the outlier best benefit of it, but that doesn't mean Essence Reaver is magically okay.

I mean hell, I love the item, cuz all the ADCs I enjoy playing are all similar to those spellslinger style characters (yes, including Lucian), but as someone who has had to watch Ezreal get shit on over and over every time theres a new item, since season 2 (since apparently you guys are adamant that his ADC playstyle is somehow healthier than his Mage playstyle), I'm hoping it doesn't start happening to Lucian.

The combination of the Fervor keystone mastery and Essence Reaver makes him really strong. I'm just hoping you guys realize that the problem isn't necessarily all Lucian himself, but the fact that there's an ADC item granting CDR vastly easier to ADCs, who already have two "damage multiplier" stats, while Mages still have to buy minimum 2 items with CDR heavily built into their cost in order to reach their CDR cap.

Just saying. You're doing the typical "fix the symptoms and not the sickness" thing that historically Riot usually opts for, and while I know all the non-Lucian players out there probably hate him (justifiably so with his current synergy with two overpowered aspects of the game), it's not the actual champion that's the problem: It's the ridiculously good "ADC-item-that's-better-CDR-and-mana-sustain-than-what-Mages-get" item causing easily-foreseen issues.

Just a random hope that you guys will notice that before you nerf Lucian into crap-town, cuz to be perfectly blunt Riot's track record with regards to later fixing champions they ruin because of some item/mastery synergy is downright awful, and I'd kinda like to avoid that if possible.

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Woook3r1 votes

You forget the new black cleaver build. doesnt include the essence reaver. still hits 45% cdr

Shinjusuke1 votes

the "Black Cleaver Build" is not remotely new, it's been a good item on him since.. well since both he and Black Cleaver were in the game together lol. Nobody cared until Essence Reaver showed up, because building the "Black Cleaver Build" was something you did to embrace a single specific playstyle.

Because Essence Reaver essentially removes any flaws Lucian was gated by (mana costs and CDR for example) he started getting played a shitload more. "Black Cleaver Build" doesn't change anything and it's old as fuck. It's still not the issue.

Sp33d Zer01 votes

Essence Reaver is strong, but Lucian has historically been strong with just about any build you throw at him. He just has a kit that has everything he could want, except for a stun.

Shinjusuke1 votes

So has Jinx, and Sivir post-rework, and Corki, and Vayne. List is longer but you get the idea. People pretending like Lucian is god-tier on his own with the Essence Reaver/Fervor synergy is silly, that's what I'm trying to say.

Bisaknosp1 votes

most people dont even build it right now and still do extremely well so idk what you want to accomplish with this thread lucian main that doesnt want his champ nerfed probably this thread just screams: 'bUt raYot mAi frELo'

Amarajah1 votes

several adc feel like much more freelo, riot always ends up focusing on popular champs tho even when they arent op

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