How hard is eve

d4rkshock·Oct 16, 2016·2 votes·578 views

Eve is one of those textbook low elo high skillcap stompers. The meta in bronze is different. You can use just about anything. I've played a little bit of eve for fun but seriously. Sometimes I can make her work and carry the game by my self and other times, it gets to the point where it's not a game anymore, its a clusterfuck instead. Her clears are bad and she needs an early kill. I just try to kite the camps and look at the map the whole time. Her mechanics are pretty low minus clearing since her q autolocked on who you rightclicks and she has no skillshots unless you count her r which isn't that hard to land. But how hard is she really.

18 Comments

Darth WestOct 17, 20164 votes

She's fairly easy, I've played a FAIR amount of Evelynn, honestly no offense but, you have no reason to lose a game in bronze as Evelynn if you're any good at her at all, just check bushes here and there and clear the pinks.

But Evelynn is a counter jungler as well, do not forget that. A good Evelynn will get FB at lvl 2 90% of the time, just study up on her more, she's very easy once learned. AND A BIG fight changer.

NOTE: I've noticed using my ultimate when the enemy is around 50% health benefits MUCH more then when they are 80% health. Make sure the ult hits as many enemies as possible in the team fight, it helps your team out greatly including you.

I can't even tell you how many times I clutched team fights under towers, behind enemies, literally destroying them per time they came back to lane, having them rage me in the end lol.

Really, learn how to counter gank and just be aggressive as hell sometimes, that's they key to Evelynn. But use it wisely when being aggressive .

catastrophicSkilOct 17, 20161 votes

eve gets early game advantages but falls off late game and is difficult to close games if you don't know what you're doing

d4rkshockOct 17, 20161 votes

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eve gets early game advantages but falls off late game and is difficult to close games if you don't know what you're doing

Pantheon does the se shit since he's such an oppressive lanner and also is out scaled late and I use him if I get top instead of jg. All you do is throw Spears then kill and gank when possible.

d4rkshockOct 17, 20161 votes

Actually, she scales late. She isn't Elise, Pantheon, etc. You can single handedly carry a game.

Troy242621Oct 17, 20161 votes

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Actually, she scales late. She isn't Elise, Pantheon, etc. You can single handedly carry a game.

She scales well into late game if and only if you know how and when to flank and score picks

Troy242621Oct 17, 20161 votes

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eve gets early game advantages but falls off late game and is difficult to close games if you don't know what you're doing

Her early game, she can roughly 60:0 people, which is good enough, because your laners will get them low and help finish them off. Late game she can literally 100:0 on her own.

Just harder to flank and pick properly late game without being either peeled or killed outright, but that's not really falling off.

catastrophicSkilOct 18, 20161 votes

I know this but eve also has the problem with because her typical build is really efficient that it actually starts to call off when everyone else gets the 5-6 items typically as eve because she is a low econ jungler she will be about 1 full item ahead in the mid game to early late game 3-5 items.

I personally itemize her differently. A high econ build with the trade off of a stronger late game. This is mostly possible due to I feel my positioning on her is extremely good. I also prefer summoner 4 over every other 2nd summoner spell i feel summoner 3 summoner 1 summoner 14 hinder her ability to make plays outside the obvious ones. With flash and better positioning i can get away with not going item 3001 item 3157 item 3116 early which is the traditional build on her. Instead I go for a variety build the core build of Jungle item + proto + boots is fairly standard for games in which you aren't going tanky. I tend to go for after item 3115 item 3100 + X item being whatever i find is most useful could be item 3151 item 3139 item 3089 honestly with how versatile eve is you can go almost anything for this last item. This build has great burst with all the on hits and her E. It's good at dealing with HP tanks which are common in the current meta and also gives the ability to take towers and split push. The only trade off is you're squishier. This is an experimented build that hasl 56-57% win rate over 200 games so there really isn't a dispute as to if it actually works or not except for this is Plat/gold MMR so maybe this build gets punished more at high elos.

Evelynn also relies on her team quite a bit yes she can pick off but in the situation where the enemy team uses vision properly and save exhaust/CC for eve she has a difficult time making an impact on the game. I find myself in a lot of situations where i have to be the engage and all in on eve rather than play the assassin pick role. This usually ends up in a death for me but i found in most situations you just need that 1 person who is willing to pull the trigger. Usually everyone will follow suit.

CalabokOct 17, 20161 votes

its female. it cant get hard.

jaymc1130Oct 17, 20161 votes

Eve is one of the most difficult champions to play effectively in the game. She's completely reliant on the person playing her to be a master of strategy and in game awareness, the most difficult skills in the game to master.

Her clears are ridiculous fast, you're 100% wrong on that note. Her mechanical intensity is pretty low, yes. She does NOT fall off late, she's a hyper scaling carry threat. She retains her effectiveness in high Elo unlike low Elo pubstompers riven, Akali, and Katarina.

Source: I'm a diamond eve player. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=OOBestEveNAOo

d4rkshockOct 17, 20161 votes

By bad clears, I mean she's squishy and that's somthing alot of assasins like rengar and kha'zix suffer from. For me, (in normals but I haven't tried ranked since I'm not too confident yet strategically going in for a kill isn't too much of a problem since map awareness is bad and no sense of lane controll but I think low bronze is the same), it's staying healthy in the jungle. I usually watch the map for gank opportunities. Also I will try to get an early kill at all costs without being an idiot but if it's a one for one, still worth since you need the kill.

jaymc1130Oct 17, 20161 votes

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By bad clears, I mean she's squishy and that's somthing alot of assasins like rengar and kha'zix suffer from. For me, (in normals but I haven't tried ranked since I'm not too confident yet strategically going in for a kill isn't too much of a problem since map awareness is bad and no sense of lane controll but I think low bronze is the same), it's staying healthy in the jungle. I usually watch the map for gank opportunities. Also I will try to get an early kill at all costs without being an idiot but if it's a one for one, still worth since you need the kill.

Sustain is a complete non issue for junglers this season.

This item exists: item 2032 . Get it, use it, it's op.

Edit: even with a refill pot 3 camp start you can make it to first ganks in a lane by 3:30 with full hp with eve just by grabbing the crab before you hit the lane for the gank. Eve has no health issues from jungle mobs unless you jungle wrong.

d4rkshockOct 17, 20161 votes

Yep it's wrong. I looked at a couple pro games and they just get both buffs then get scuttle and attempted to gank. That's what I try to do lvl 3 but will farm if not possible to gank yi until one appears.

Troy242621Oct 17, 20161 votes

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Sustain is a complete non issue for junglers this season.

This item exists: . Get it, use it, it's op.

Edit: even with a refill pot 3 camp start you can make it to first ganks in a lane by 3:30 with full hp with eve just by grabbing the crab before you hit the lane for the gank. Eve has no health issues from jungle mobs unless you jungle wrong.

On top of this, just kite and spam Q whenever you don't have your E's AS boost. The argument can be made that you don't even need the refilling pot at all. She clears camps pretty quickly, and when you kite properly, stays pretty healthy.

Troy242621Oct 17, 20161 votes

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Eve is one of the most difficult champions to play effectively in the game. She's completely reliant on the person playing her to be a master of strategy and in game awareness, the most difficult skills in the game to master.

Her clears are ridiculous fast, you're 100% wrong on that note. Her mechanical intensity is pretty low, yes. She does NOT fall off late, she's a hyper scaling carry threat. She retains her effectiveness in high Elo unlike low Elo pubstompers riven, Akali, and Katarina.

Source: I'm a diamond eve player. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=OOBestEveNAOo

Ever consider streaming? I'd love to pick up on more of the nuances of Evelynn, in the wake of the Shaco changes Riot has planned that I suspect will inevitably kill him. Evelynn may end up my new main.

AkirisReedOct 17, 20161 votes

Considering her kit, Eve is often overlooked as an easy champion, which she is not. There's no Yasuo/Vayne mechanics in her, but playing Eve requires strong decision making at every point of the game. She is VERY diverse champion. Depending on team needs you can build her ap one-shot assasin, you can build her sustain ad damage dealer, you can build her bruiser or even full tank. But it comes with cost. Build path determines your play style and teamfighting. You can not play her the same way in every game. Her base stats are somewhat low, she's squishy, so timing when you enter fights is crucial.

Also, you really misjudge her clear. Her clear is very fast and strong. If you have issues with hp, then start red and it will help you with this.

Eve may seem not as exciting, as flashy champs, but there's a lot of strategic depth in her and there's an element of hunt. Once you ambush, good for you, but if you are ambushed, your options are limited at best.

Troy242621Oct 17, 20161 votes

Evelynn is like MasterYi in that she is easy to learn but difficult to master because the entirety of her success is derived from her decision making and game knowledge.

If you take away Evelynn's passive, there are a plethora of better jungle assassins to choose from, which means you must abuse her stealth properly by punishing enemy mistakes and aggression.

Pandemic PunchOct 17, 20161 votes

I keep seeing the term, "decision making" being thrown around in this thread. That logic can be applied to every champion.

O Fallen ScholarOct 17, 20161 votes

Yes, her clear is mediocre and you have to run shit ton of AP runes just for clear. That's what I dislike about Eve. Also even with armor runes she takes way too much damage in the jungle.