I feel like ADCs have no problem with going into other lanes and taking their cs for no reason

koshkyra··137 votes·6,058 views

.. but then the moment someone touches the cs in their lane the ADC starts screaming and crying and threatening to afk, screaming "GG WE LOSE NO GOLD FOR THE ADC".

Maybe im just circlejerking or overreacting but is it just me?

175 Comments

vgamedude79 votes

This stuff triggers me so hard. I was playing zilean mid and the adc kept roaming and taking all the cs and when I told her to please let me have some the response was "You're Zilean".

If riot didn't make adcs the end all be all post 20 min class it wouldn't be as bad. Too much importance on them.

BG Death9 votes

{quoted}

"You're Zilean".

OMEGALUL

Real Sexy Yoona5 votes

The sad truth is nobody wants a useless ADC in a team fight. As much as people hate the class, it is by a large margin, the most important class in the game right now. Although the ADC in your situation was being rude af, it makes sense that Zilean can be useful without CS. His kit can still do what it does without him getting a new item. The slow, the ult (although having AP ratios), the Q stun is largely unaffected by Zilean having more gold. It's a different story when your ADC has more gold and is an item over the enemy ADC cuz their entire kit is based around right clicking. It's sad that team fights are lost simply because your ADC doesn't have lord dominiks but they do. Your ADC doesn't have the IE, Shiv, RFC power spike but they do etc.

Bottom line: Riot needs to buff other laners to be as important as ADC so they can carry the game in their own ways. Then it wouldn't make sense for an ADC to steal your farm. I mean it's morally wrong and rude to steal farm in the first place, but the META JUSTIFIES IT.

OHminus2 votes

buff other laners

Please no. Just nerf the ADC class so they come into line with the other classes.

Taliyah Rocks51 votes

IKR, it feels like adc players feel entitled to steal your farm because they're the strongest class right now and gold is worth more on them than other classes. On one side, it does make sense since it is usually more efficient if your adc gets more gold since they scale harder, on the other, it's just so annoying to get shoved aside by Riot's favorite class.

WiegrafOfValor8 votes

They were always like that, ever since season 2 if I remember.

There's nothing to do with how powerful the role is or not, it's a sense of entitlement and selfishness of a man- baby.

SangreDeNoche4 votes

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IKR, it feels like adc players feel entitled to steal your farm because they're the strongest class right now and gold is worth more on them than other classes. On one side, it does make sense since it is usually more efficient if your adc gets more gold since they scale harder, on the other, it's just so annoying to get shoved aside by Riot's favorite class.

Even then, it doesn't mean you're not supposed to touch minions that are dying anyway. I've been pinged from 2 lanes away from the adc that they want the wave that's pushing towards the low af tower and they KNOW we need to be ready to fight the enemy soon so I attack only minions as they're about to die anyway and I get spam pinged and told in chat to leave.

PhearBunny46 votes

Honestly its just the nature of how stupidly OP Shiv+IE is. ADC's can roam to any lane and 1shot a wave, and move on. They shouldn't be able to do that, but they can.

koshkyra14 votes

this

I cant even think of the amount of times i was playing a champion with delayed waveclear Orianna Leblanc Taliyah Lux and my adc just came up to the wave and autod one minion, poof the entire wave is gone.

TeCoolMage11 votes

Even Anivia loses minions to the ADC because her Q is slow and her R is a DoT.

Heck even your instant waveclear champions like Xerath concede the melee minions but always secure the caster ones.

Sometimes I wonder if mages are actually supposed to be the waveclear these days.

SEKAI36 votes

Wait until you jungle. Many feel they're entitled to kill your jungle creeps and take your buffs whenever they please without even as much as asking.

At least most people don't bitch when you farm their lane after lane phase so you kinda get used to it after a while, but I've seen people who wouldn't even let me (the jungle) push a lane after the lane phase because that was supposedly their farm, and they typed that whilst busy clearing my shit; now those are the worst.

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Mid lane can be quite bad too, I guess. After some point in a match, most people would come and farm at mid, especially in lower elo where most players focus playing around mid-lane and only really push the side lanes when there's nothing else to do.

So if you play champs who have bad clears in mid, you gotta prepare yourself, because your cs/min typically fall off a cliff once everybody gathers around the mid lane.

koshkyra5 votes

i main lux and if i dont get a rabadons by the 20 minute mark (only way to oneshot the casters) i basically just dont get anymore gold for the rest of the game

Ifneth3 votes

Luden’s Echo should solve that, right?

Michael Sykes1 votes

That item is better for burst than for actual Waveclear. And additionally it's slightly delayed, you can't win against Stattik's

Terozu1 votes

But its faster than statikks

Votable Jester2 votes

It has a tiny animation after the spell hits where it pops up and then lands on targets. Stattik Shyv proc instantly hits them all.

Spacesuit Spiff9 votes

I'm fine if people take jungle mobs if I'm not around to clear them myself, but when they act entitled to the ones I should be doing that's hilarious. Once had a support blitz slooowly try to do wolves, when i walked by and nuked them he afkd until we promised him, and this is real, exclusive access to the wolf camp.

ValyrianBlade3 votes

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I'm fine if people take jungle mobs if I'm not around to clear them myself, but when they act entitled to the ones I should be doing that's hilarious. Once had a support blitz slooowly try to do wolves, when i walked by and nuked them he afkd until we promised him, and this is real, exclusive access to the wolf camp.

Obviously he was wrong, but I've had players slowly taking a camp that I've come and taken, only for them after the fact to point out that they needed 90g for a big item. Oops. Supports don't have great access to gold. If a support is doing a camp, they probably are close to a power spike. I rarely see supports taking gold unnecessarily.

BestPudgeNA7 votes

{quoted}

Wait until you jungle. Many feel they're entitled to kill your jungle creeps and take your buffs whenever they please without even as much as asking.

My favorite one is when you spoon feed a lane a kill and let them get the last hit on purpose then they bitch cause you take one-2 CS when shoving the wave to get a tower or allow them to get a proper back off.

Terozu4 votes

I once got flamed as evelynn for being behind a Shyvanna in farm. By three different teammates. Mid was clearing my raptors and blue, top krugs and red and bottom lane my gromp. They told me i needed to farm but god forbid i touched the minions, and if i used smite to take on of my camps from them theyd spam ping me. The support was the one who finally said it. Decided to honor her right then and there.

LuunaLily22 votes

Vayne "GG Poppy can't tank!" Poppy "Well yea, you keep taking my farm so I can't build the items I need." Vayne "... Other roles have items?"

HalcyonDweller13 votes

I dunno if it is just ADCs, I've seen this from laners of all kinds. But yeah it's a thing that some people do.

koshkyra11 votes

I dont see it from other laners, i main mid so if my adc is taking my farm i will say nothing and start taking their farm in return.

If they abuse their pings and chat i will mute them. You cannot "declare" two lanes to be yours to farm in.

Usually the toplaner will do the same if the adc is taking their farm.

Its only the ADC i see screaming about "their" farm whilst they are stealing it from other people.

Obviously we play different matches, though, so it could just be happening to you less.

I like your name, is it vainglory inspired?
SooFr0sty13 votes

Try being a jungler lol

SwiftKitten889 votes

{quoted}

Try being a jungler lol

ikr "our jungler is useless"

im already getting counter jungled by their Shyvana AND YOU BLOODY PEOPLE ARE TAKING THE OTHER HALF!!!

oh yeah and remember the days when i could afford to give blue to my mid laner? LOL good times..

RainbowIcee7 votes

people are dumb they don't think of the bigger picture, the jg creeps give the jg extra EXP so they should leave the jg to kill them to have an advantage. But nah let me go kill them because i pushed my lane.

Steelflame4 votes

You need to consider it. If the camp has been up for a long time, kill it so that it can respawn at the new current level. Junglers won't get a single point of bonus xp if the camp had been sitting around a long time generally, because it will be either at or below their level (and the bonus XP ONLY kicks in if they are lower leveled than the camp itself). Even if you are not going to fully finish off the krugs, killing the original big and medium krug will set it to respawn, and give you half of the gold value of the camp. You don't have to kill any of the secondary/tertiary spawns, they will despawn on their own after ~10 seconds not in combat or so.

Akali Prime11 votes

because im adc and everything belongs to me, duh

Athenes Lulu9 votes

Are you telling me that toplaners and midlaners don't do that?

Because I'm pretty sure they do as much as you think ADCs bitch about this.

koshkyra7 votes

Midlaners and toplaners will go into other lanes and farm. They do not bitch about "their" farm while they do this though.

If i am literally halfway walking back to lane and i see you heading for my cs, i am going to spam ping you off of it. If i am in toplane (as a midlaner) and you go for my cs, go ahead, its better that someone gets it than nobody.

Jerry SeinfeId5 votes

you change the situation to fit your narrative here. You basically just said they're right. Everyone tells their team to fuck off from their farm, unless they're nowhere near them. But putting adc + negative thing about them in the title works like a magnet so gj i guess.

SephAgro9 votes

It's entitlement and stems from the fact that the ADC is now the entire game.

The Dreamwalker8 votes

I don't like being put into this bubble. I always tell my support that it is fine if they kill a minion or two in order to poke out the enemy team. Anyhow, my support and I don't need minions when we are too busy farming champions. Also, I don't, personally, don't steal someone's CS (kills are a different story). Anyhow, I don't think you should put all ADCs into a tiny little box with a stamp on them. I am not saying that every ADC doesn't do this, some do, and I understand the frustration (because I do play other lanes), but I don't want to get placed into a box.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Ifneth2 votes

As a former ADC who’s like you...

[sg-ahri-2]

AirKingNeo7 votes

You're ranting and this thread doesn't encourage meaningful discussion.

koshkyra26 votes

But your comment does?

AirKingNeo3 votes

Yes, it does. It tells people to post meaningful threads rather than pointless rant garbage.

I am more amazed you think my comment is hypocritical.

koshkyra13 votes

If you're going to refer to my threat as "pointless rant garbage" clearly you are not providing anything meaningful to this either.

Also if you dislike it so much you can, gasp LEAVE the thread.

vgamedude9 votes

Hes a salty adc player see him everywhere. [sg-miss-fortune]

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

Point of this post: Remind players to not blindly take all farm because they're crippling their team. It shows another reason why Shyv+IE is possibly too strong at the moment. It's not hurting anyone but those who behave in the way the OP described, and those it should hurt because they need to adjust their behavior. It helps vent (better here in good fun than in game). It's the community discussing something (even if they all agree on it).

Great post.

AirKingNeo1 votes

No, it isn't. It's a rant thread with a bias against ADCs.

If it was a thread about "Remind[ing] players to not blindly take all farm because they're crippling their team." then it wouldn't be titled "I feel like ADCs have no problem with going into other lanes and taking their cs for no reason" and wouldn't have the body, ".. but then the moment someone touches the cs in their lane the ADC starts screaming and crying and threatening to afk, screaming 'GG WE LOSE NO GOLD FOR THE ADC'."

As much as a good argument that could be, the thread is completely too biased for that to be what the thread is about.

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

It can be both what the thread is about and that the thread is biased. The argument might not be as good then anymore, but it's still there.

AirKingNeo1 votes

No, because it clearly targets a specific class while also exclaiming that other classes are not able to do this themselves.

Illâoi Evê Siôn2 votes

The point is reminding ADCs not to systematically take all farm and starve their team, and the bias is that ADCs are crybabies.

If you want a thread about all classes systematically taking all farm and starving their team, you can make one but it won't be as relevant.

AirKingNeo1 votes

That's discrimination.

Illâoi Evê Siôn2 votes

That's the reality of the situation.

RainXBlade5 votes

This kind of mentality where ADC's are entitled to taking everything and not sparing something for their team, even though they're inherently the strongest class in the game is getting unhealthy.

datfatguy4 votes

This annoys me as well. Even if I take a little bit of farm they're like "Hello ADC trying to farm here".

I don't care if you're ADC. I need to farm as much as you do, if not more. ADC items are disgustingly cheap anyway, so who cares?

Ben SwoIo3 votes

I fucking HATE this shit. ADC's can go to my mid/top/jg and take some cs but the minute you go and take some from bot (while they're clearing another lane or some stupid shit) they get all pissy about it and cry. ADC's just come off as a buncha entitled little brats.

RenownedWheat423 votes

Just had this happen to me. Even after pinging and asking him, "Hey, can you let me farm my lane?" he replied "muted" and just continued to just rip my waves down. Dude would come mid to farm and let three or four waves pile up bot for some frickin reason.

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