Nautilus W: Give Bonus Damage Resistance to Monsters?

Troy242621··4 votes·695 views

PROPOSAL: Really all that's needs to facilitate jungle Nautilus is bonus damage resistance against monsters (not minions).

JUSTIFICATION: This would extend his window of opportunity to clear with his W, alleviating his otherwise abysmal clears. Jungle Nautilus should be viable, and this buff wouldn't affect top/support Nautilus.

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Troy2426211 votes

Downvotes without comments or voting on the poll.

:c.

Elisheva1 votes

Lower his base defense, health, damage, and cc duration, then sure.

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[{quoted}](name=Deiformis Ira,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dBLJsYlX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-12-05T18:17:58.282+0000)

Lower his base defense, health, damage, and cc duration, then sure.

Why would we kick Nautilus in the nuts in exchange for a minor buff that allows him to be used in the role he was originally intended to play? Lowering his damage would undermine the point of the change entirely.

Seems like you just aren't O.K. with him jungling, but considering the alternative is dealing with Hecarim LeeSin Rengar Zac Khazix,....

Elisheva1 votes

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Why would we kick Nautilus in the nuts in exchange for a minor buff that allows him to be used in the role he was originally intended to play? Lowering his damage would undermine the point of the change entirely.

Seems like you just aren't O.K. with him jungling, but considering the alternative is dealing with Hecarim LeeSin Rengar Zac Khazix,....

Because he can already be obscenely strong? He is the bane of my sion top lane. someone who is tankier, better cc, better shield, the only thing he doesn't have is stealth.

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[{quoted}](name=Deiformis Ira,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dBLJsYlX,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-12-05T22:50:35.421+0000)

Because he can already be obscenely strong? He is the bane of my sion top lane. someone who is tankier, better cc, better shield, the only thing he doesn't have is stealth.

It's almost like this change would literally not affect top lane Nautilus at all.

Elisheva1 votes

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It's almost like this change would literally not affect top lane Nautilus at all.

My point is, he already has potential in multiple roles. He already isn't the worst jungler, has guarenteed-kill ganks if your laners are good, and can fend for himself if need be. Buffing him would be like meowkais skill release buff. Instantly gain popularity, because it's busted.

Troy2426211 votes

I invite anyone who thinks his current clear speed is sufficient to go into a bot match and do a full clear.

The buff can be minuscule, just needs a nudge in my opinion. He has deeply fallen out of favor, no pun intended, and has been for quite some time now.

Colgate Gator1 votes

Nautilis is fine as he is, please don't move anything about him.

Any buff about him will only alert the metaheads in the forum and cry about his CC or something until he's gutted ala Sejuani.

Meep Man2 votes

Sej is 100% gutted. Yep. Unplayable!

http://champion.gg/champion/Sejuani

Look at that! She is so underpowered! Everything screams underpowered! It's practically impossible to play her anymore!

RogueWill1 votes

She has 3% pick rate and players averaging 45 games on her. Still win her high win rate (which is mostly because only specialized players are using her) she has average on everything but deaths and assists. Deaths is almost the double of the avergrae junglers on a tank.... if that doesn't scream gutted I don't knwo what does

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[{quoted}](name=Postal Badger,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dBLJsYlX,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-12-05T18:47:55.836+0000)

Nautilis is fine as he is, please don't move anything about him.

Any buff about him will only alert the metaheads in the forum and cry about his CC or something until he's gutted ala Sejuani.

I've found people don't consider CC imherently annoying. CC bothers people when it's combined with burst damage and/or mobility. Nautilus is lacking in both of those areas.

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[{quoted}](name=Postal Badger,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dBLJsYlX,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-12-05T18:47:55.836+0000)

Nautilis is fine as he is, please don't move anything about him.

Any buff about him will only alert the metaheads in the forum and cry about his CC or something until he's gutted ala Sejuani.

I don't think a minor clear speed buff would suddenly make Nautilus better than Zac, Hecarim and Amumu.

RogueWill1 votes

some bonus movement speed on the jungle woudl be nice....he is so slow...and is fine to be slow when you are sittign on a lane but when you are supposed to move from point A to point B on the map he takes around 5 more secs just to move.

Incognonymous1 votes

Leave his W a shield, but allow for the on hit as a passive that only splashes when W is active.

RexSaur1 votes

Only on this board ppl ask for buffs for tanks that have 54~55% win rates lmao.

Troy2426211 votes

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Only on this board ppl ask for buffs for tanks that have 54~55% win rates lmao.

Yes, his jungle winrate is 55%. Totally. You nailed it.

I'm asking for a jungler to be able to jungle again.

RexSaur1 votes

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Yes, his jungle winrate is 55%. Totally. You nailed it.

I'm asking for a jungler to be able to jungle again.

Not every champion has to be a jungler.

And besides, sure but nerf the hell out of his kit right now as hes actually op with the new mastery.

Troy2426211 votes

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Not every champion has to be a jungler.

And besides, sure but nerf the hell out of his kit right now as hes actually op with the new mastery.

He was designed to be a jungler...And maybe nerf the blatantly overpowered mastery not the champions using it. Plus, other tank junglers out-perform him regardless of the mastery.

iLLp1 votes

"Nautilus W: Give Bonus Damage Resistance to Monsters?" sounds like you're asking for his w to give defense stats to monsters lmfao

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[{quoted}](name=o f u c k,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dBLJsYlX,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-12-06T00:02:18.038+0000)

"Nautilus W: Give Bonus Damage Resistance to Monsters?" sounds like you're asking for his w to give defense stats to monsters lmfao

Dammit. Against monsters' attacks*

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