Anyone wanna make a bet?

WoonStruck··2 votes·724 views

Of all the un-intuitive tank/pseudo-tanky builds being played commonly now, that is Akali Fiora Graves MasterYi Quinn, which do you think will get smacked the hardest?

My bet is Akali , who isn't even really a problem. Just an answer to the anti-AD top laners getting played now. Can't have any AD carries weak now, can we?

Your move, Rito.

Post your opinions below.

17 Comments

AscendedxBlade1 votes

no i think the tank items they build will get hit

Kuronii Lumiira1 votes

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no i think the tank items they build will get hit

like when WW was in a good spot when the new jungler items came out, but since he could "potentially abuse them", they pushed him further down?

Sure.

WoonStruck1 votes

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like when WW was in a good spot when the new jungler items came out, but since he could "potentially abuse them", they pushed him further down?

Sure.

They don't want WW to be viable.

He's too binary. If he's ahead, he's practically unstoppable. If he's behind...doesn't matter, you have your ult. If your team isn't super far behind, you're still a threat just because of that, not to mention the utility his W and E gives his team.

Kuronii Lumiira1 votes

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They don't want WW to be viable.

He's too binary. If he's ahead, he's practically unstoppable. If he's behind...doesn't matter, you have your ult. If your team isn't super far behind, you're still a threat just because of that, not to mention the utility his W and E gives his team.

The point was that he was -not- a problem with the new items; the new items were the problems, and yet he got "toned down" even though he was in a fine place.

Juggernaut6281 votes

They're not going to nerf Yi. You saw what they did with Xin. Why would they do the opposite to Yi?

WoonStruck1 votes

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They're not going to nerf Yi. You saw what they did with Xin. Why would they do the opposite to Yi?

I think there's a good chance they'll nerf his bases and up his ratios at some point, though it might not even be this season.

Zorasama1 votes

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I think there's a good chance they'll nerf his bases and up his ratios at some point, though it might not even be this season.

I don't think Yi base damage is really that high, it just his insane passive interaction with sated.

WoonStruck1 votes

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I don't think Yi base damage is really that high, it just his insane passive interaction with sated.

Although there are some insane interactions for him, I've seen practically the same results from Warrior's, Youmuu's+BotRK, tank, and even the same with cinderhulk instead of warrior.

SSJ5 BlondeBunny1 votes

A tank shouldnt move as fast as yi or quinn do, but i think yi

AscendedxBlade1 votes

and these champs should be able to build tank and do their damage please

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

They show a love for quinn, yi , graves, and fi

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

They really need to lower graves/quinn/yi base damage and increase their scalings so they're be forced to build more AD.

WoonStruck1 votes

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They really need to lower graves/quinn/yi base damage and increase their scalings so they're be forced to build more AD.

Yeah, they do. Will they?

Lol.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Don't bring up the will they we have to believe! xD

Also Yi it wouldn't work he only needs AS/on-hits to do anything AD or AP doesn't do anything for him.

Maybe if they lowered the free tank stats he gets from his heal he'd be better but even then that would just hurt carry yi making him a useless champ.

Honestly yi is too well designed that it's backfiring, because of how he was designed him with Tank+AS+On-hit is the only real way to excel while just ignoring AP/AD due to items.

WoonStruck1 votes

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Don't bring up the will they we have to believe! xD

Also Yi it wouldn't work he only needs AS/on-hits to do anything AD or AP doesn't do anything for him.

Maybe if they lowered the free tank stats he gets from his heal he'd be better but even then that would just hurt carry yi making him a useless champ.

Honestly yi is too well designed that it's backfiring, because of how he was designed him with Tank+AS+On-hit is the only real way to excel while just ignoring AP/AD due to items.

Actually, what you're saying is that he's poorly designed. Even Vayne has to build SOME AD. The fact that Yi doesn't shows how pooly designed he is. He needs his E's bases gutted and the ratio adjusted to compensate a little so he's forced to buy a few AD-dedicated items.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Well yea yi is probably the most well design bad design character. Cause he was made perfectly but doesn't rely on stats except AS.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

The only item commonly build by Graves and Quinn that does not give 50+ AD (or equivalent AS/Crit) is item 3053 . Which is mostly bought for its anti-burst properties on Graves (he only has bonus AD ratios) and Quinn (her base AD is rather crappy).

With the upcoming changes, it will be worse on them if they do not build it only at level 18 - the build components give 25 AD, and you'd need 100 base AD to get the same from the +25% base AD effect. Considering that both champions only reach that ballpark at level 18 (and Quinn even caps at 95), it is a proportionally more impactful nerf for lower base AD champions.

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