People complaining about jungles making it a win or loss game

awdaf·May 16, 2017·2 votes·333 views

Well no shit sherlocks

Jungle determines the pace of the game, and how objectives are taken (Objectives AKA: Things that matter).

Want to help your jungle set the pace? Ward for him, give him information that he/she can use, and make your lane GANKABLE

Definition of Gankable: Not pushing your lane to tower every wave, instead FREEZING

Definition of Freezing: Holding the lane at a spot closer to your tower, to make it a longer lane for your enemy to run back to his tower.

5 Comments

PhDs NutsMay 16, 20173 votes

I'm so sick of my games being determined by which team is faster at killing the enemy nexus.

DukuesMay 16, 20171 votes

Amen.

Kempachi TaichouMay 16, 20171 votes

Games are decided in bot lane... How well they push lane, and where they can go next.

BTW lane swapping is still a thing...

MuffledGarbageMay 16, 20171 votes

The problem isn't ganking or taking objectives. That in addition to helping the lanes out a bit is the definition of the jungler role...

The problem arises when ganking becomes oppressive for laners and taking objectives becomes as easy as setting pepperonis on a pizza. The fact that BOTH of these can be achieved is a problem.
Farming under tower and pushing a wave, considering that it is the easiest time to towerdive in all of league history, is just as dangerous as being under tower.

Go 0/2 against a toplane Kled Darius Tryndamere Camille Illaoi Graves Heimerdinger Jayce Garen Gragas Gnar Fiora Fizz Nautilus Nunu Riven Rumble Pantheon Quinn Rammus Renekton Swain TahmKench Trundle Volibear MonkeyKing XinZhao ( Irelia Mordekaiser and Yasuo are debatable) and be prepared to have no fun for the next 40 minutes.

and giving a jungler one kill nowadays sets them up for lategame. Examples include: Sejuani Amumu LeeSin Zac with honorable mentions to MasterYi and XinZhao who still struggle against competent teams but can still snowball hard enough to take towers as fast as Tryndamere

The jungler role has problems that are more of a result of the meta shifting to favor earlygame gankers who can set the pace of the entire match.

Ganked and got a kill on enemy botlane at level 3 as LeeSin Khazix or Rengar ? As long as your botlane keeps up in CS then they will ALWAYS be ahead in gold+XP of the other laners until the autofilled Warwick decides to gank bot after getting level 8 and camping the feeding enemy toplane Fiora .

I'd guess that to solve the problem riot could introduce extra IP rewards for someone choosing to play fill which would in turn make a lot of people turn to fill in order to both get into games faster, but also to learn new roles and removing the need for autofill(hopefully)