That fucking tibbers, and other pets

Spoofghoul··3 votes·551 views

Now i know Annie's pet bear is hated for going full tilt after you kill Annie and tries to avenge her.

This does suck for a lot of people, but mainly because they mindlessly go in pres qwer expect to just win by killing someone in 0.5 seconds or less preventing counter play etc etc (which even more toxic) and then they get clobbered by a bear and die too and get mad because they just forgot to think

you know the tibbers does these things you go in using your mobility and therefor blowing your escape knowing full well the bear might do some hurt after you kill Annie, and yet you go in anyway. so boofuckinghooo is ur own fault man. Tibbers don't even deal that much damage.

I actually like these kinds of mechanics in pets because they force an opponent to consider these things before going in and when to go in.

(though annies 100-0 burst with no counterplay is kind of toxic so i understand the hate when her bear will now also rape your face after you kill her just because)

But Annie is not the only one with such a mechanic, Heimers turrets kind of do the same, they continue firing away for a short duration. It be even better if they would switch focus to Heimy's killer

I would honestly like to see this with more pets like Yoricks maiden and Iverns Daisy

Ivern even tells us that daisy does stampede, so why not when Ivern dies?

Why doesn't Yoricks maiden keep pushing down the designated lane or spawn a whole new set of ghouls and go after the nearest enemy.

It would add a lot of value to the pets and more interactions with enemies and things to work around

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Big Lincoln2 votes

yeah because you know what a burst mage with 2 spells that are 0-frame instant AoEs needed?

to have a chance to kill you after she's dead after you survived her burst combo

WoonStruck1 votes

You know, if you buy item 1057, she literally can't do anything to you in lane considering 9/10 of the champions in mid-lane out-range her. If she blows flash to combo you, she won't kill you, then you get 5 minutes of free farm.

They lowered her damage pretty substantially when they added the revenge mechanic, you know.

Nameless Voice1 votes

Of her basic spells, only the damage from her ultimate was reduced, from 175 / 300 / 425 + 80% AP to 150 / 275 / 400 + 65% AP. She lost 25 + 15% AP damage from her burst combo.

The 15% AP ratio was added to Tibbers' basic attacks instead. Tibbers' damage per hit was also reduced by 30 at all levels and 10 burn damage per second at all levels, instead getting a slightly longer attack range, better AI and the new rage mechanic that lets him attack almost four times as often after Annie stuns an enemy or dies.

Total burst before (assuming two Tibbers attacks and two seconds of burn): 375 / 570 / 765 + 80% AP Total burst (assuming five Tibbers attacks and two seconds of burn): 420 / 680 / 940 + 155% AP

(Not counting the damage output of her other spells, which should be unchanged.)

Now, 5 attacks is a guess at how many attacks he can get in with the 375% attack speed decaying to 100% over 3 seconds that enrage gives him, but it doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

Did I do something wrong with the maths here? Because that seems like a huge damage output buff for Annie.

Spoofghoul1 votes

to be fair i did point that out too

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

xd

Nameless Voice1 votes

The reason I hate the bear is because Annie bursts you for most of your health first (even if you bought defensive items), and if you somehow manage to kill her in the downtime until her next spell rotation, her bear still kills you.

You're saying you shouldn't be able to just QWER and kill Annie - yet it's Annie who QWER and kills other people most of the time, and if they manage to withstand or outplay her damage output, Tibbers often kills them anyway. Plus, Annie didn't actually do anything. She used her ultimate for the AoE damage, Tibbers' existence is just a free bonus, and his enrage actually rewards her for messing up and dying.

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